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steeleye20 Croydon 04 Oct 16 6.28pm | |
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Do agree I just read of the increase of 250,000 in child poverty under Cameron in 1 year I don't think the tories have any humanity.
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Hrolf The Ganger 04 Oct 16 8.47pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Shouldn't those proposals be what we as a nation aspire to. You may want to shrug your shoulders and say 'well that's life. Live with it' but I'm prepared to fight and campaign for what I believe in. Edited by nickgusset (04 Oct 2016 5.57pm) You can aspire to what you like but don't be so dumb as to think that it will happen.
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Hrolf The Ganger 04 Oct 16 8.56pm | |
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Originally posted by Mr_Gristle
Some of the playground bollox on this thread demeans its posters, but this is wisdom. Wanting a more equal society and wanting to improve the lot of the average citizen seem utterly sensible tenets to me.
Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (04 Oct 2016 8.57pm)
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chris123 hove actually 04 Oct 16 8.59pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Do agree I just read of the increase of 250,000 in child poverty under Cameron in 1 year I don't think the tories have any humanity. Read this
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elgrande bedford 04 Oct 16 9.57pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (04 Oct 2016 8.57pm) I do tend to agree with this,I would like to see what constitutes poverty in 2016.
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chris123 hove actually 04 Oct 16 10.27pm | |
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Originally posted by elgrande
I do tend to agree with this,I would like to see what constitutes poverty in 2016. This is from what I linked above
Main Findings The percentage of children in relative low income BHC increased by 2 percentage points to 19% (not statistically significant) in 2014/15. The percentages of children in absolute low income and in combined low income and material deprivation, however, remained unchanged at 17% and 13% respectively. This is most likely due to families with children benefiting less from increases in full-time work than childless families, as well as the 1% uprating of some benefits. Children are at higher risk of living in both relative and absolute low income than the overall UK population. This result holds over the past 20 years and is true on both a Before and After Housing Costs basis.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 04 Oct 16 11.22pm | |
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Originally posted by chris123
This is from what I linked above
Main Findings The percentage of children in relative low income BHC increased by 2 percentage points to 19% (not statistically significant) in 2014/15. The percentages of children in absolute low income and in combined low income and material deprivation, however, remained unchanged at 17% and 13% respectively. This is most likely due to families with children benefiting less from increases in full-time work than childless families, as well as the 1% uprating of some benefits. Children are at higher risk of living in both relative and absolute low income than the overall UK population. This result holds over the past 20 years and is true on both a Before and After Housing Costs basis. This is from the independent based on HM Revenue and Customs figures
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.TUX. 05 Oct 16 6.09am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
An interesting interpretation of the facts. And yet most people wouldn't trust Labour with a piggy bank. It's all Tory spin I suppose. I lived through the seventies mate and your sort want to take us back there but without the laughs. Aaah, the 70's. The end of the Bretton Wood system, banks running riot (ring any bells?), oil prices through the roof, the FTSE/Dow Jones losing half their value...............and Slade. Apart from Slade you're right, it was all Labours fault
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chris123 hove actually 05 Oct 16 6.47am | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
This is from the independent based on HM Revenue and Customs figures But low income is a statistical point and doesn't equal poverty. If you increased every ones income by 50% you'd still have the same proportion on low incomes.
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leifandersonshair Newport 05 Oct 16 8.40am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (04 Oct 2016 8.57pm) Ha, seriously?! Wealth drags all people upward sounds like 'trickle down economics' which has been super successful right? I feel so much better knowing that 1% are so much richer, and apparently dragging me up with them. Thanks, the 1%! I take your point that poverty in 2016 is very different from poverty in 1916 or 1816. But anyone who thinks that there is not real poverty in this country (someone who cannot get enough to eat, regularly, and faces hard choices about whether to turn on the heating or pay the rent in the winter) is delusional. It isn't just 'don't have a plasma screen TV' "poverty".
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Penge Eagle Beckenham 05 Oct 16 8.48am | |
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Originally posted by leifandersonshair
Ha, seriously?! Wealth drags all people upward sounds like 'trickle down economics' which has been super successful right? I feel so much better knowing that 1% are so much richer, and apparently dragging me up with them. Thanks, the 1%! I take your point that poverty in 2016 is very different from poverty in 1916 or 1816. But anyone who thinks that there is not real poverty in this country (someone who cannot get enough to eat, regularly, and faces hard choices about whether to turn on the heating or pay the rent in the winter) is delusional. It isn't just 'don't have a plasma screen TV' "poverty". Hrolf is correct. The poor get richer when the wealthy get richer. It's simple economics.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 05 Oct 16 8.59am | |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
Hrolf is correct. The poor get richer when the wealthy get richer. It's simple economics. Not according to this Trickle-down economics is the greatest broken promise of our lifetime Many other articles I could have chosen from...
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