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  georgenorman  07 Jun 24 6.59pm |
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Originally posted by silvertop
This country is run by a powerful and well entrenched administration (and insurance companies). However, you just need to see where the executive diverges completely from the administration, e.g. in the Truss mini budget, that the executive can exercise real power with substantive consequences. [I can only think of this one negative example. There may be examples of positive divergence; but you only hear of stuff when things go badly awry] I worked for a couple of insurance companies in the past - they could hardly run themselves, let alone the country.
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| Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 07 Jun 24 9.47pm |
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The Danish PM has been attacked in Copenhagen. The Danes go to the polls in two day’s time. The cynic in me says that this event is to influence the voter’s choice…
hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing. |
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| Matov 09 Jun 24 6.15pm |
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Seems all positive news from the EU elections so far. Lets see how the results pan out but in terms of Germany and Austria, then looking like some good increases in votes for the Right. Also seen some good news from Ireland as well.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell. |
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| silvertop Portishead 10 Jun 24 10.00am |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
I worked for a couple of insurance companies in the past - they could hardly run themselves, let alone the country. Yeah, that was my little in joke (with myself). Everything you do in life it seems has rules and restrictions - many daft - and pretty much all not governed by nanny state, or lefties but dictated by insurance policies.
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 19 Jun 24 4.28pm |
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The EU are saying that they will start fining France for various, currently ignored breaches, if they vote in bogey woman Le Pen. How very democratic of them.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 19 Jun 24 6.04pm |
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BBC journalist criticised for wrong description of the EU. Never mind Christan, what would you know. 'Legislation is reserved for the European Commission, the executive arm of the EU'. The vast majority of the UKs voters understood little or nothing about the workings of the EU, which is why EU leaders and politicians were barred by the UK, because they may have explained it to the poor afflicted souls. Now they have bombed out investment, zero growth and record immigration, and you will soon need to be finger-printed to even go there. Forget economic growth, it ain't going to happen. The Commission cannot simply enact legislation, proposals require the approval of the EU parliament and EU Council with up to 3 readings of each body. The BBC really encapsulates the narrow-minded view of the brexiteer, the papers shuffle and the eyes roll whenever there is the prospect of them having to mention the UKs self-inflicted disaster. The UK is the post office on wheels.
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| ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 19 Jun 24 6.10pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
BBC journalist criticised for wrong description of the EU. Never mind Christan, what would you know. 'Legislation is reserved for the European Commission, the executive arm of the EU'. The vast majority of the UKs voters understood little or nothing about the workings of the EU, which is why EU leaders and politicians were barred by the UK, because they may have explained it to the poor afflicted souls. Now they have bombed out investment, zero growth and record immigration, and you will soon need to be finger-printed to even go there. Forget economic growth, it ain't going to happen. The Commission cannot simply enact legislation, proposals require the approval of the EU parliament and EU Council with up to 3 readings of each body. The BBC really encapsulates the narrow-minded view of the brexiteer, the papers shuffle and the eyes roll whenever there is the prospect of them having to mention the UKs self-inflicted disaster. The UK is the post office on wheels.
[Link] Here is the EU Commission's description from the EU website. They have sole responsibility for introducing any legislation.
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| georgenorman 19 Jun 24 8.28pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
[Link] Here is the EU Commission's description from the EU website. They have sole responsibility for introducing any legislation. Exactly. The EU Parliament cannot propose laws themselves. All that MEPs can do is vote against laws put in front of them by the Commission and in the case of budgetary and foreign policy matters they can't even do that. If you can't elect the people that propose and frame the laws that govern you, then you don't live in a democracy.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Jun 24 11.01pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Exactly. The EU Parliament cannot propose laws themselves. All that MEPs can do is vote against laws put in front of them by the Commission and in the case of budgetary and foreign policy matters they can't even do that. If you can't elect the people that propose and frame the laws that govern you, then you don't live in a democracy. Here we go again, attacking the EU on a completely false premise. The EU is a group of national states, each with their own Parliament, who are responsible for the enactment of laws in their country. Those Parliaments can ask the Commission to prepare and present new legislation. The EU Parliament can also do that, and it also scrutinises any proposals but it cannot pass laws on its own. That requires the input of the Council. It’s complicated because of the fact that each country remains sovereign. You may find this interesting:-
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| georgenorman 20 Jun 24 6.50am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Here we go again, attacking the EU on a completely false premise. The EU is a group of national states, each with their own Parliament, who are responsible for the enactment of laws in their country. Those Parliaments can ask the Commission to prepare and present new legislation. The EU Parliament can also do that, and it also scrutinises any proposals but it cannot pass laws on its own. That requires the input of the Council. It’s complicated because of the fact that each country remains sovereign. You may find this interesting:- "The European Commission is the EU's politically independent executive arm. It is alone responsible for drawing up proposals for new European legislation" "In the adoption of legislative acts, a distinction is made between the ordinary legislative procedure and the special legislative procedures, which apply only in specific cases where Parliament has only a consultative role. On certain questions (e.g. taxation) the European Parliament gives only an advisory opinion (the ‘consultation procedure’)." [The European Union website] Edited by georgenorman (20 Jun 2024 6.51am)
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 20 Jun 24 8.32am |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
"The European Commission is the EU's politically independent executive arm. It is alone responsible for drawing up proposals for new European legislation" "In the adoption of legislative acts, a distinction is made between the ordinary legislative procedure and the special legislative procedures, which apply only in specific cases where Parliament has only a consultative role. On certain questions (e.g. taxation) the European Parliament gives only an advisory opinion (the ‘consultation procedure’)." [The European Union website] Edited by georgenorman (20 Jun 2024 6.51am) What do you think “drawing up” means? Does it mean “making”? Does it mean “passing”? Does it mean “preparing”?
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| georgenorman 20 Jun 24 8.48am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
What do you think “drawing up” means? Does it mean “making”? Does it mean “passing”? Does it mean “preparing”? "The European Commission is the sole EU body capable of proposing new legislation. The Commission also performs an oversight function, monitoring whether European legislation is properly implemented in the member states. In the event of non-compliance, the Commission can coerce a member state to comply by starting a legal procedure at the European Court of Justice." What do you think "sole" means? Edited by georgenorman (20 Jun 2024 8.49am)
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