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imbored UK 17 Apr 15 9.22pm
Quote pefwin at 17 Apr 2015 9.08pm Quote johnfirewall at 17 Apr 2015 7.51pm Quote Hoof Hearted at 17 Apr 2015 10.30am When are the Labour voters on this thread going to have the "balls" (excuse the pun) to admit it on here. According to this thread none of you lefties are voting Labour as they are too far right. Why are they polling so high then? Just saw Miliband disowned by the Jews of Finchley on the news. And while the left have anti-semitic leanings they're well disguised, as with their intentions to vote Labour. People want to vote smart and for policies rather then personalities but lack the imagination or balls to do anything other than vote for the most likely party to keep the Tories out. I'm voting UKIP, all the non-racists are, you can tell by the thread. All the anti-Semites are voting Labour, and not National Socialist parties. Also, let's not forget that Ed Miliband once looked funny eating a sandwich.
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UK 17 Apr 15 9.22pm

Quote pefwin at 17 Apr 2015 9.08pm

Quote johnfirewall at 17 Apr 2015 7.51pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 17 Apr 2015 10.30am

When are the Labour voters on this thread going to have the "balls" (excuse the pun) to admit it on here.

According to this thread none of you lefties are voting Labour as they are too far right.

Why are they polling so high then?

Just saw Miliband disowned by the Jews of Finchley on the news. And while the left have anti-semitic leanings they're well disguised, as with their intentions to vote Labour.

People want to vote smart and for policies rather then personalities but lack the imagination or balls to do anything other than vote for the most likely party to keep the Tories out.

I'm voting UKIP, all the non-racists are, you can tell by the thread.

All the anti-Semites are voting Labour, and not National Socialist parties.

Also, let's not forget that Ed Miliband once looked funny eating a sandwich.

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Hoof Hearted 18 Apr 15 10.29am
Quote pefwin at 17 Apr 2015 7.30pm Quote Kermit8 at 17 Apr 2015 7.02pm Quote pefwin at 17 Apr 2015 6.51pm I am thinking of voting UKIP. Ah, that explains the ultra-conservative aura of one of your posts recently. Reason why I would vote UKIP: 1 I am still "anyone but the Tory scum", at heart, so it splits the Fascist vote. 2 They keep on giving so I don't want them to be a flash in the pan. 3 It will let me have a chance to be with those that obviously prefer my company to some others. Doubt I would make many friend though. 4 I felt sorry with everyone else congratulating each other at one end of the platform and the Huguenot foreigner on his own at the side. 5 I am contemplating the lederhosen and jackboot look. My biggest problem is that I am not "prematurely bald", I don't like the idea of arm ache from lifting my arm in the air all the time, or all that goose-stepping, you might as well be doing the hokey cokey. It takes all sorts Peffers.... welcome aboard! Oh yeah... 2 days in since I asked and still no one owning up to voting Labour.... LOLZ Edited by Hoof Hearted (18 Apr 2015 10.31am)
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Hoof Hearted 18 Apr 15 10.29am

Quote pefwin at 17 Apr 2015 7.30pm

Quote Kermit8 at 17 Apr 2015 7.02pm

Quote pefwin at 17 Apr 2015 6.51pm

I am thinking of voting UKIP.

Ah, that explains the ultra-conservative aura of one of your posts recently.

Reason why I would vote UKIP:

1 I am still "anyone but the Tory scum", at heart, so it splits the Fascist vote.
2 They keep on giving so I don't want them to be a flash in the pan.
3 It will let me have a chance to be with those that obviously prefer my company to some others. Doubt I would make many friend though.
4 I felt sorry with everyone else congratulating each other at one end of the platform and the Huguenot foreigner on his own at the side.
5 I am contemplating the lederhosen and jackboot look.

My biggest problem is that I am not "prematurely bald", I don't like the idea of arm ache from lifting my arm in the air all the time, or all that goose-stepping, you might as well be doing the hokey cokey.

It takes all sorts Peffers.... welcome aboard!

Oh yeah... 2 days in since I asked and still no one owning up to voting Labour.... LOLZ

Edited by Hoof Hearted (18 Apr 2015 10.31am)

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legaleagle 18 Apr 15 11.09am
You have made my mind up Hoof,I'm voting labour
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legaleagle

18 Apr 15 11.09am

You have made my mind up Hoof,I'm voting labour

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Hoof Hearted 18 Apr 15 11.12am
Quote legaleagle at 18 Apr 2015 11.09am You have made my mind up Hoof,I'm voting labour Congratulations.... the only one brave enough to admit he's a window licker!
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Hoof Hearted 18 Apr 15 11.12am

Quote legaleagle at 18 Apr 2015 11.09am

You have made my mind up Hoof,I'm voting labour

Congratulations.... the only one brave enough to admit he's a window licker!

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matt_himself Matataland 18 Apr 15 11.39am
Quote legaleagle at 18 Apr 2015 11.09am You have made my mind up Hoof,I'm voting labour Are you going to attach an eight page summary of why you are voting Labour to your ballot card? "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 18 Apr 15 11.39am

Quote legaleagle at 18 Apr 2015 11.09am

You have made my mind up Hoof,I'm voting labour

Are you going to attach an eight page summary of why you are voting Labour to your ballot card?

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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Stirlingsays 18 Apr 15 11.45am
Quote legaleagle at 18 Apr 2015 11.09am You have made my mind up Hoof,I'm voting labour I don't think any of us saw that one coming. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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18 Apr 15 11.45am

Quote legaleagle at 18 Apr 2015 11.09am

You have made my mind up Hoof,I'm voting labour

I don't think any of us saw that one coming.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Stirlingsays 18 Apr 15 12.01pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 17 Apr 2015 1.45pm Quote matt_himself at 17 Apr 2015 11.44am So you don't think that there are any rich career politicians on the left who espouse socialism and yet don't live by their supposed principles and get a kick out of playing Che Guevara? Probably are, just like I am sure there are all kinds of people who vote for the right, but support concepts like welfare and the NHS. Hang on Jamie mate, that's hardly a fair comparison. Leaving aside the fact that the concepts of 'left' and 'right' do, of course, cover a huge amount of conceptual ground it is stretching it a bit to describe the British 'right' as being anti NHS or Welfare. That's a small section of the right, hardly anything like most of it......It's like saying that Labour want to get rid of Trident.....A section do....But most people who vote Labour most certainly don't. Since the introduction of the NHS in the 40s we have had mostly conservative governments yet spending has continued to rise....mostly under those governments. This is the same reality since the explosion in welfare costs since the seveties. The 'right' are definitely more conscious of 'squaring the circle' in terms of affordability.....Whereas most of the gormless nation just imitate Oliver and hold their hands out for more.....'Please state, take responsibility for our lives'. The state, is the taxpayer, and those morons given the task of directing those large funds should ensure that the money 'works' for its citizens. I believe in an unwritten contract between state and citizen. But it cuts both ways and unfortunately in our modern culture the number of people with their expectant hands out has grown more than those willing to 'give'. The 'me, me, I'm an individual' generation doesn't neatly fit the old concepts. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Apr 2015 12.03pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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18 Apr 15 12.01pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 17 Apr 2015 1.45pm

Quote matt_himself at 17 Apr 2015 11.44am

So you don't think that there are any rich career politicians on the left who espouse socialism and yet don't live by their supposed principles and get a kick out of playing Che Guevara?

Probably are, just like I am sure there are all kinds of people who vote for the right, but support concepts like welfare and the NHS.

Hang on Jamie mate, that's hardly a fair comparison.

Leaving aside the fact that the concepts of 'left' and 'right' do, of course, cover a huge amount of conceptual ground it is stretching it a bit to describe the British 'right' as being anti NHS or Welfare.

That's a small section of the right, hardly anything like most of it......It's like saying that Labour want to get rid of Trident.....A section do....But most people who vote Labour most certainly don't.

Since the introduction of the NHS in the 40s we have had mostly conservative governments yet spending has continued to rise....mostly under those governments.

This is the same reality since the explosion in welfare costs since the seveties.

The 'right' are definitely more conscious of 'squaring the circle' in terms of affordability.....Whereas most of the gormless nation just imitate Oliver and hold their hands out for more.....'Please state, take responsibility for our lives'.

The state, is the taxpayer, and those morons given the task of directing those large funds should ensure that the money 'works' for its citizens.

I believe in an unwritten contract between state and citizen. But it cuts both ways and unfortunately in our modern culture the number of people with their expectant hands out has grown more than those willing to 'give'.

The 'me, me, I'm an individual' generation doesn't neatly fit the old concepts.

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Apr 2015 12.03pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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legaleagle 18 Apr 15 12.02pm
Quote matt_himself at 18 Apr 2015 11.39am Quote legaleagle at 18 Apr 2015 11.09am You have made my mind up Hoof,I'm voting labour Are you going to attach an eight page summary of why you are voting Labour to your ballot card? good day to you on this lovely spring morning nah,3 words should do; "least bad option"
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18 Apr 15 12.02pm

Quote matt_himself at 18 Apr 2015 11.39am

Quote legaleagle at 18 Apr 2015 11.09am

You have made my mind up Hoof,I'm voting labour

Are you going to attach an eight page summary of why you are voting Labour to your ballot card?

good day to you on this lovely spring morning

nah,3 words should do; "least bad option"

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imbored UK 18 Apr 15 12.36pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 18 Apr 2015 12.01pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 17 Apr 2015 1.45pm Quote matt_himself at 17 Apr 2015 11.44am So you don't think that there are any rich career politicians on the left who espouse socialism and yet don't live by their supposed principles and get a kick out of playing Che Guevara? Probably are, just like I am sure there are all kinds of people who vote for the right, but support concepts like welfare and the NHS. Hang on Jamie mate, that's hardly a fair comparison. Leaving aside the fact that the concepts of 'left' and 'right' do, of course, cover a huge amount of conceptual ground it is stretching it a bit to describe the British 'right' as being anti NHS or Welfare. That's a small section of the right, hardly anything like most of it......It's like saying that Labour want to get rid of Trident.....A section do....But most people who vote Labour most certainly don't. Since the introduction of the NHS in the 40s we have had mostly conservative governments yet spending has continued to rise....mostly under those governments. This is the same reality since the explosion in welfare costs since the seveties. The 'right' are definitely more conscious of 'squaring the circle' in terms of affordability.....Whereas most of the gormless nation just imitate Oliver and hold their hands out for more.....'Please state, take responsibility for our lives'. The state, is the taxpayer, and those morons given the task of directing those large funds should ensure that the money 'works' for its citizens. I believe in an unwritten contract between state and citizen. But it cuts both ways and unfortunately in our modern culture the number of people with their expectant hands out has grown more than those willing to 'give'. The 'me, me, I'm an individual' generation doesn't neatly fit the old concepts. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Apr 2015 12.03pm) It's a bit rich picking someone up on a generalisation and lack of nuance concering the right when you generalise and bang on about the left and lefties constantly. Edited by imbored (18 Apr 2015 12.46pm)
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UK 18 Apr 15 12.36pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 18 Apr 2015 12.01pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 17 Apr 2015 1.45pm

Quote matt_himself at 17 Apr 2015 11.44am

So you don't think that there are any rich career politicians on the left who espouse socialism and yet don't live by their supposed principles and get a kick out of playing Che Guevara?

Probably are, just like I am sure there are all kinds of people who vote for the right, but support concepts like welfare and the NHS.

Hang on Jamie mate, that's hardly a fair comparison.

Since the introduction of the NHS in the 40s we have had mostly conservative governments yet spending has continued to rise....mostly under those governments.

This is the same reality since the explosion in welfare costs since the seveties.

The state, is the taxpayer, and those morons given the task of directing those large funds should ensure that the money 'works' for its citizens.

The 'me, me, I'm an individual' generation doesn't neatly fit the old concepts.

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Apr 2015 12.03pm)

It's a bit rich picking someone up on a generalisation and lack of nuance concering the right when you generalise and bang on about the left and lefties constantly.

Edited by imbored (18 Apr 2015 12.46pm)

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Stirlingsays 18 Apr 15 1.01pm
Quote imbored at 18 Apr 2015 12.36pm It's a bit rich picking someone up on a generalisation and lack of nuance concering the right when you generalise and bang on about the left and lefties constantly. Edited by imbored (18 Apr 2015 12.46pm) It's a bit rich, if that's the way you feel, to only address that to me and not to Jamie then. Easier to type it to a political opposite isn't it eh. In fact, in the past, when I have talked of the left...(believe it or not, this point has previously been made) I've made it quite clear that I'm referring to the ideologically committed left.....Not the majority of those who actually vote Labour. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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18 Apr 15 1.01pm

Quote imbored at 18 Apr 2015 12.36pm

It's a bit rich picking someone up on a generalisation and lack of nuance concering the right when you generalise and bang on about the left and lefties constantly.

Edited by imbored (18 Apr 2015 12.46pm)

It's a bit rich, if that's the way you feel, to only address that to me and not to Jamie then.

Easier to type it to a political opposite isn't it eh.

In fact, in the past, when I have talked of the left...(believe it or not, this point has previously been made) I've made it quite clear that I'm referring to the ideologically committed left.....Not the majority of those who actually vote Labour.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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imbored UK 18 Apr 15 1.11pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 18 Apr 2015 1.01pm Quote imbored at 18 Apr 2015 12.36pm It's a bit rich picking someone up on a generalisation and lack of nuance concering the right when you generalise and bang on about the left and lefties constantly. Edited by imbored (18 Apr 2015 12.46pm) It's a bit rich, if that's the way you feel, to only address that to me and not to Jamie then. Easier to type it to a political opposite isn't it eh. In fact, in the past, when I have talked of the left...(believe it or not, this point has previously been made) I've made it quite clear that I'm referring to the ideologically committed left.....Not the majority of those who actually vote Labour. I'm sure that's what you think you do, but that's half the problem. But then it's impossible for anyone to 'completely' get away from simplifying others positions.
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UK 18 Apr 15 1.11pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 18 Apr 2015 1.01pm

Quote imbored at 18 Apr 2015 12.36pm

It's a bit rich picking someone up on a generalisation and lack of nuance concering the right when you generalise and bang on about the left and lefties constantly.

Edited by imbored (18 Apr 2015 12.46pm)

It's a bit rich, if that's the way you feel, to only address that to me and not to Jamie then.

Easier to type it to a political opposite isn't it eh.

I'm sure that's what you think you do, but that's half the problem. But then it's impossible for anyone to 'completely' get away from simplifying others positions.

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Stirlingsays 18 Apr 15 1.34pm
Quote imbored at 18 Apr 2015 1.11pm I'm sure that's what you think you do, but that's half the problem. But then it's impossible for anyone to 'completely' get away from simplifying others positions. I can't really help people's perception of me. The 'lefty', 'righty' thing isn't that big a deal. People can just post rebuttals or refinements to the description or perceived generalisation.....Pretty much, how I just did. Debate, being the point I suppose. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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18 Apr 15 1.34pm

Quote imbored at 18 Apr 2015 1.11pm

I'm sure that's what you think you do, but that's half the problem. But then it's impossible for anyone to 'completely' get away from simplifying others positions.

I can't really help people's perception of me.

The 'lefty', 'righty' thing isn't that big a deal. People can just post rebuttals or refinements to the description or perceived generalisation.....Pretty much, how I just did.

Debate, being the point I suppose.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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