I already posted in reply to Bluejay a couple of pages back. It’s time for change, but not to the detriment of the British people or British investors.

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There is absolutely no desire to dominate anyone. You probably won't believe it though.

History would tend to disagree with you. Throw in geography and language and you have a nation that appears more prone than most to have a desire to interfere in the affairs of others even if only because it harbours deep insecurity (let's not forget that it has only existed as one country since 1871 and was divided into two for forty years of that period) France to its West, Russia to its East and with its access to the oceans always done so purely with the blessing, or not, of the UK

Throw in a history of economic colonisation out to the east (modern-day Germany has a huge chunk of what it might be able to claim a legitimate ownership of to the East) and you have a nation that always needs keeping a wary eye on. Both enjoying a huge positive in terms of some natural resources such as coal whilst being almost completely lacking in others such as oil and various ores, and you have a nation-state that has to secure a variety of commodities to ensure its well being.

The EU tempers Germanys worst instincts. But the Euro has completely thrown that balancing act and handed Berlin far to much power. Europe will rue that day eventually.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

This is the absolute crux of it. For example, the big building companies were desperate for us to remain in Europe as their profits, boosted by utilising cheap European labour have rocketed in the last 10-20 years.

Let’s get back to British workers getting paid decent money for a decent days work. Let’s have British sub contractors being able to win tenders because they are not up against crews from Eastern Europe pricing jobs at cost to kill British crews off.

The net result? The big companies don’t make obscene profits, the ground workers, carpenters, fixers, plasterers, bricklayers, plumbers, electricians and let’s not forget the labourers start to earn fair money, are able to contribute more in taxes, etc,etc. This is my business and it’s what I understand, but I’m sure it would apply to many other businesses that can see a positive out of being hamstrung by European tender rules.

'They don't like it up em'.

A sign that should be on every nightclub door for lesbian night.

Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Dec 2020 11.39am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Honesty is rarely rewarded in the political world.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

How this is all ending today has a certain delicious irony to it. Starmer was instrumental in changing Labour policy from respecting the referendum result to not only calling for a second referendum but also then cheering on a second Remain option. A policy that was beyond any rational comprehension. And at that moment, handing Johnson the next election on a plate. Perhaps the biggest ever example of political self-immolation in modern history. That speech he gave at the Labour party conference in 2018 will be studied by generations of political students for decades to come. With his punishment being made leader of the Labour party and then suspending the man who led the party to almost winning in 2017.

With Labours second referendum a policy that was utter insanity given the electoral reality of the UK. Gifting Johnson an 80 seat majority. Might as well have put it in a shiny box and tied a lovely ribbon around it.

And now, a little over a year later, leading the Labour Party and whipping his MP's to vote for Johnsons deal.

Delightful. The kind of s*** you could not write as fiction.

Well done Sir Starmer. I am now convinced he was the Leave campaigns secret weapon. Our greatest double agent. A true Knight of the Realm!

Brexit is concluded today. And all thanks to one man. Ladies, Gentlemen and Naval Officers. I give you the leader of the Labour Party. My Brexit champion. A true national hero!

Edited by Matov (30 Dec 2020 1.25pm)

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.