I think Wisbech E must have known this was coming so did what some footballers do got himself red carded for Christmas.

On behalf of the Brexiteers on here we was robbed of the opportunity to pull him up.

One more point

Farage has stood down over Brexit because it is done and dusted now. Suspect I will be frothing at the mouth when I see the details but I am a nutter who loathes the EU so much that I hate the thought of any deal. But there is still his 'Reform' Party (I believe the application to change the name from the 'Brexit' party is almost complete). Be interesting to see how that focuses with local elections due in May. It already has a national structure in place so I think could probably stand in quite a few areas.

Plenty of ex-labour voters up for grab and with Brexit done, may not be keen on voting Conservative again. But Labour are hardly a valid choice either. Suspect that Starmer has most to fear, at least short term if Farage decides to stay in the game although it is not without risks. Thanks to all the retarded Second Referendum divs, Farage had a political challenge equivalent to shooting fish in a barrel. Could not have been easier. Even I cringed at times how simple it was for him. But having to formulate a wider and more encompassing political brand, different ball game altogether. We will see.

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Edited by Matov (24 Dec 2020 10.44pm)

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

It looks the EU won on fishing but the UK won on much more.

We'll never die

I had bet on Brexit not affecting me (in actual fact I was too lazy to get my Irish passport). It seems to have made no difference to me, so I'm relieved.

Red and Blue Army!

Here’s to the future

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

Devil is in the detail as they say. Initial reactions are interesting. In terms of the fishing then plenty of raised voices from either side but it was always, in the greater scheme of things, pure froth. As to how it plays out in the future then I suspect it will be more about EU intercine warfare as French and Spanish fleets look to move into Irish waters along with issues up towards the Norwegian waters but that is supposing there is this big(?) clawback of British fishing rights. I sense that it will be fudged time and time again with quotas once again sold to the highest bidder and all kinds of shenanigans around who actually owns the British fishing boats/companies.

I do wonder if you might see Scottish waters coming under pressure? With Westminster deferring to Edinburgh? The SNP are full-on EU bitch boys and will do nothing to stop EU fishing fleets doing effectively what they want, which is potentially bad news for a supposedly 'National' movement. Could be some interesting plays up there. English waters are protected whilst the SNP do not have the guts to do similar to their own? But that is pure speculation.

Like much else at the moment, hindsight is probably the only way we are ever going to be able to assess how much was gotten right and wrong.

But there is certainly less fog now and I suspect that the EU will be playing catch up from now on in terms of recovering from this wretched Covid year, primarily because it moves so bloody slowly. The financial taps will be turned on long enough for the Germans and the Dutch to get back on track and then off they go again. Leaving the south of the EU in even more s***.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.