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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 24 Dec 20 12.14pm
Originally posted by Matov Lets be honest, nobody is going to get everything they want. For the 'burn it all to the ground and then build it from scratch' mob any agreement is a betrayal. And for the Remonaer bitch-boys, then any case for rejoining would be kicked into the grass for I guess most of our life times. Personally, I loathe the stench of 'compromise' but also have enough self-awareness to know I can have a screw loose when it comes to this subject. Its done. We left the EU, and we have a trade agreement of sorts. But we still have two rotten and corrupt political parties dominating our system, both in thrall to corporate interests and third-parties who do not care a jot for the UK populace. Nobody wins whilst that is still in place. Fair. Talking of loathing - the constant highlighting of fishing being the be all and end all is infuriating. I get that it’s a political hot potato, probably as it involves discussions around territory and therefore is easy to over simplify as an us and them topic (which the media and simpletons love) - but the actual economic value of it all is almost insignificant. The quota system is a joke and has been easily manipulated, but 0.02% of GDP. Again, 0.02%. I think there are bigger fish to fry, personally. Farage chirping up about it amuses me - especially when you consider That apparently over the three years that he was a member of the European Parliament Fisheries Committee, he attended just one out of 42 meetings. Dedicated. Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.
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Addiscombe West 24 Dec 20 12.14pm

Originally posted by Matov

Lets be honest, nobody is going to get everything they want.

For the 'burn it all to the ground and then build it from scratch' mob any agreement is a betrayal. And for the Remonaer bitch-boys, then any case for rejoining would be kicked into the grass for I guess most of our life times.

Personally, I loathe the stench of 'compromise' but also have enough self-awareness to know I can have a screw loose when it comes to this subject.

Its done. We left the EU, and we have a trade agreement of sorts.

But we still have two rotten and corrupt political parties dominating our system, both in thrall to corporate interests and third-parties who do not care a jot for the UK populace.

Nobody wins whilst that is still in place.

Fair.

Talking of loathing - the constant highlighting of fishing being the be all and end all is infuriating. I get that it’s a political hot potato, probably as it involves discussions around territory and therefore is easy to over simplify as an us and them topic (which the media and simpletons love) - but the actual economic value of it all is almost insignificant. The quota system is a joke and has been easily manipulated, but 0.02% of GDP. Again, 0.02%. I think there are bigger fish to fry, personally.

Farage chirping up about it amuses me - especially when you consider That apparently over the three years that he was a member of the European Parliament Fisheries Committee, he attended just one out of 42 meetings. Dedicated.

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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Matov 24 Dec 20 12.29pm
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC Talking of loathing - the constant highlighting of fishing being the be all and end all is infuriating. I get that it’s a political hot potato, probably as it involves discussions around territory and therefore is easy to over simplify as an us and them topic (which the media and simpletons love) - but the actual economic value of it all is almost insignificant. The quota system is a joke and has been easily manipulated, but 0.02% of GDP. Again, 0.02%. I think there are bigger fish to fry, personally. The fish question was always primarily symbolic rather than any real economic significance and as a nation, sadly in my opinion because the delights of freshly caught mackerel are terribly underestimated, we don't really 'do' fish in the same way that Europe does. And long been concerned that the issue is used by all sides to distract from the real meat and gristle of the deal. But time will tell. Lets see. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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24 Dec 20 12.29pm

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

The fish question was always primarily symbolic rather than any real economic significance and as a nation, sadly in my opinion because the delights of freshly caught mackerel are terribly underestimated, we don't really 'do' fish in the same way that Europe does.

And long been concerned that the issue is used by all sides to distract from the real meat and gristle of the deal. But time will tell. Lets see.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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becky over the moon 24 Dec 20 12.31pm
Originally posted by Matov The fish question was always primarily symbolic rather than any real economic significance and as a nation, sadly in my opinion because the delights of freshly caught mackerel are terribly underestimated, we don't really 'do' fish in the same way that Europe does. And long been concerned that the issue is used by all sides to distract from the real meat and gristle of the deal. But time will tell. Lets see. Especially when served up with a gooseberry and elder flower chutney A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers
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over the moon 24 Dec 20 12.31pm

Originally posted by Matov

The fish question was always primarily symbolic rather than any real economic significance and as a nation, sadly in my opinion because the delights of freshly caught mackerel are terribly underestimated, we don't really 'do' fish in the same way that Europe does.

And long been concerned that the issue is used by all sides to distract from the real meat and gristle of the deal. But time will tell. Lets see.

Especially when served up with a gooseberry and elder flower chutney

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

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Matov 24 Dec 20 12.49pm
Originally posted by becky Especially when served up with a gooseberry and elder flower chutney Sounds delightful. Personally, I have simpler tastes and ideally will have them grilled on the BBQ or, if not possible, wrapped in foil and baked in the oven before being drizzed with olive oil, seasoned with freshly ground sea-salt and then a cheeky squeeze of fresh lemon. A little taste of heaven! "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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24 Dec 20 12.49pm

Originally posted by becky

Especially when served up with a gooseberry and elder flower chutney

Sounds delightful.

Personally, I have simpler tastes and ideally will have them grilled on the BBQ or, if not possible, wrapped in foil and baked in the oven before being drizzed with olive oil, seasoned with freshly ground sea-salt and then a cheeky squeeze of fresh lemon.

A little taste of heaven!

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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cryrst The garden of England 24 Dec 20 1.10pm
Originally posted by Badger11 Once Brexit is done the next challenges in no particular order are: - Abolish The House Of lords - British Bill of Rights and responsibilities to replace the "Uman" Rights Court. - Defund the BBC - Reform Asylum process. - Define the role and power of the PM - More transparency in appointing judges and and their performance. - National Infrastructure board with cross party support. Plenty to get on with. The power of the PM. Less or more and has covid planted this thought?
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The garden of England 24 Dec 20 1.10pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Once Brexit is done the next challenges in no particular order are:

- Abolish The House Of lords
- British Bill of Rights and responsibilities to replace the "Uman" Rights Court.
- Defund the BBC
- Reform Asylum process.
- Define the role and power of the PM
- More transparency in appointing judges and and their performance.
- National Infrastructure board with cross party support.

Plenty to get on with.

The power of the PM. Less or more and has covid planted this thought?

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 24 Dec 20 1.43pm
Originally posted by Badger11 Once Brexit is done the next challenges in no particular order are: - Abolish The House Of lords - British Bill of Rights and responsibilities to replace the "Uman" Rights Court. - Defund the BBC - Reform Asylum process. - Define the role and power of the PM - More transparency in appointing judges and and their performance. - National Infrastructure board with cross party support. Plenty to get on with. Stick doing away with the "honours" system at the top mate, "Sir" Phillip Green might not approve, but "honours" are ten a penny these days, David Bowie had the right idea, David, it2s buckingham palace, if we offer you a knighthood will you recieve it with good grace? No thanks- top man!
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Any european country i fancy! 24 Dec 20 1.43pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Once Brexit is done the next challenges in no particular order are:

Plenty to get on with.

Stick doing away with the "honours" system at the top mate, "Sir" Phillip Green might not approve, but "honours" are ten a penny these days, David Bowie had the right idea, David, it2s buckingham palace, if we offer you a knighthood will you recieve it with good grace? No thanks- top man!

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 24 Dec 20 1.45pm
Originally posted by croydon proud Stick doing away with the "honours" system at the top mate, "Sir" Phillip Green might not approve, but "honours" are ten a penny these days, David Bowie had the right idea, David, it2s buckingham palace, if we offer you a knighthood will you recieve it with good grace? No thanks- top man! Even receive it- i before e, except after c!
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croydon proud

Any european country i fancy! 24 Dec 20 1.45pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

Even receive it- i before e, except after c!

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mezzer Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 24 Dec 20 1.50pm
If they've reached agreement on fishing, what's the catch? Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.
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Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 24 Dec 20 1.50pm

If they've reached agreement on fishing, what's the catch?

Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

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Badger11 Beckenham 24 Dec 20 2.09pm
Originally posted by cryrst The power of the PM. Less or more and has covid planted this thought? I am still upset over the Supreme Court decision where they ruled that Boris broke the law even though there was no law to break. The SC should have thrown the case out and told Parliament it should define the PM's roles and responsibilities. To stop an unelected body hijacking our constitution Parliament should legislate to resolve this issue otherwise it is likely to happen again and yes Boris has been playing fast and loose with Parliament. One more point
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Beckenham 24 Dec 20 2.09pm

Originally posted by cryrst

The power of the PM. Less or more and has covid planted this thought?

I am still upset over the Supreme Court decision where they ruled that Boris broke the law even though there was no law to break. The SC should have thrown the case out and told Parliament it should define the PM's roles and responsibilities.

To stop an unelected body hijacking our constitution Parliament should legislate to resolve this issue otherwise it is likely to happen again and yes Boris has been playing fast and loose with Parliament.

One more point

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 24 Dec 20 2.46pm
Deal done, lets see what you got us boris
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Any european country i fancy! 24 Dec 20 2.46pm

Deal done, lets see what you got us boris

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BlueJay UK 24 Dec 20 3.07pm
Originally posted by croydon proud Deal done, lets see what you got us boris Yep, it's official [Link]
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BlueJay

UK 24 Dec 20 3.07pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

Deal done, lets see what you got us boris

Yep, it's official [Link]

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cryrst The garden of England 24 Dec 20 3.08pm
Originally posted by croydon proud Deal done, lets see what you got us boris Brexiteers should be the scruteneers not remainers. That's how it is imo.
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cryrst

The garden of England 24 Dec 20 3.08pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

Deal done, lets see what you got us boris

Brexiteers should be the scruteneers not remainers.
That's how it is imo.

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