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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Can I join up the dots between the Tories privatising water, the shareholders stripping millions a year out of the industry while investing nothing in the infrastructure, the 'waivers' offered to water companies by the Tories to permit release more untreated waste into our environment and the now shocking state of our water? Because those seem like much more relevant dots to me. I mentioned those, but for some reason you lefties have a blind spot for the obvious pressure that mass immigration puts on all services. When more people want a peice of the cake, you either give them smaller peices or make a bigger cake.
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I just want to confirm to everyone that everything is indeed better in the EU. I know because I live there. The EU has solved almost everything. It won't be long before we need another bailout so I hope you all agree.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I mentioned those, but for some reason you lefties have a blind spot for the obvious pressure that mass immigration puts on all services. When more people want a peice of the cake, you either give them smaller peices or make a bigger cake. Nope, more than happy to acknowledge immigration is a relevant factor in loads of areas, including those you mention. But equally, I don't view it as the be all and end all of every single topic and I don't fail to hold to account the people actually responsible for our declining living standard by obsessively focussing on immigration. This water story is a perfect example - immigration rates are loosely relevant to our water quality, but there are many considerably more relevant factors. A better analogy around the 'cake' is that more and more of the cake is being hogged by a tiny percentage of people while the rest of us, immigrants and locals alike, scrap around for an ever-declining share of the crumbs.
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
I just want to confirm to everyone that everything is indeed better in the EU. I know because I live there. The EU has solved almost everything. It won't be long before we need another bailout so I hope you all agree. I know loads of people who argue that the EU is a paradise, militarily strong and they have "solved everything". Great stuff.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I mentioned those, but for some reason you lefties have a blind spot for the obvious pressure that mass immigration puts on all services. When more people want a peice of the cake, you either give them smaller peices or make a bigger cake. When one of those things, which is the one most would put top of that list in my opinion, is the NHS, which couldn’t function without immigration, it seems the only blind spots exist in the minds of those who blame immigration for everything they disapprove of. We need skilled people so until we reorganise ourselves to provide the training places and ensure that everyone who can work does work then we have no choice. Providing the necessary infrastructure to deal with that is essential but comes alongside the primary need.
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Nope, more than happy to acknowledge immigration is a relevant factor in loads of areas, including those you mention. But equally, I don't view it as the be all and end all of every single topic and I don't fail to hold to account the people actually responsible for our declining living standard by obsessively focussing on immigration. This water story is a perfect example - immigration rates are loosely relevant to our water quality, but there are many considerably more relevant factors. A better analogy around the 'cake' is that more and more of the cake is being hogged by a tiny percentage of people while the rest of us, immigrants and locals alike, scrap around for an ever-declining share of the crumbs. I would actually agree that the biggest factor with water has been privatisation. I will also tell you that here a lot of the water is brown. Most in Ireland will not drink the tap water. So we nationalised it - it was up to individual corporations before (councils to you). It hasn't improved although they're spending billions on new infrastructure - which is presumably mainly made out of brown envelopes as is our wont. I pay 15 a quarter for an under sink filter system. I will say the company (Gulp water) are excellent and at 15 a quarter I don't miss it. Everyone, and I mean everyone does that. Although, rurally you could quite easily have your own well.
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Tomatoes 4 for £2 - and that was reduced! It gets worse every day the new border check regime will bring food price hikes, unavailability, shrinkage, bankruptcies, also not fresh products consider all the delays. Even Rees-Mogg is not happy - before he defects next week, of course. (to Count Binface). We can certainly thank our voters also for this - to have actually voted to impose economic sanctions on ourselves. 'wider and wider, may our sewage be set'.
Christ! Where do you buy your tomatoes, Fortnum and Mason?
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Nope, more than happy to acknowledge immigration is a relevant factor in loads of areas, including those you mention. But equally, I don't view it as the be all and end all of every single topic and I don't fail to hold to account the people actually responsible for our declining living standard by obsessively focussing on immigration. This water story is a perfect example - immigration rates are loosely relevant to our water quality, but there are many considerably more relevant factors. A better analogy around the 'cake' is that more and more of the cake is being hogged by a tiny percentage of people while the rest of us, immigrants and locals alike, scrap around for an ever-declining share of the crumbs. I can't argue with the highlighted bit. Clearly, the rules for private companies running utilities need to be rewritten and the current rules upheld in the meantime.
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
I know loads of people who argue that the EU is a paradise, militarily strong and they have "solved everything". Great stuff.
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The EU elections start tomorrow things to look out for: 1. Will the right continue to make gains across Europe and will immigration be a hot button topic. 2. A political pundit reckons the voters are suffering from environmental fatigue and are not happy about the costs related to Green policies. So will the Greens take a hit. I make no predictions just putting out there what some commentators say. Additionally I am hoping that our Irish posters will give us a snapshot of what is going on over there. Edited by Badger11 (05 Jun 2024 7.13pm)
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Originally posted by Badger11
The EU elections start tomorrow things to look out for: 1. Will the right continue to make gains across Europe and will immigration be a hot button topic. 2. A political pundit reckons the voters are suffering from environmental fatigue and are not happy about the costs related to Green policies. So will the Greens take a hit. I make no predictions just putting out there what some commentators say. Additionally I am hoping that our Irish posters will give us a snapshot of what is going on over there. Edited by Badger11 (05 Jun 2024 7.13pm) It doesn't matter much who is elected, they have no real power.
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Originally posted by georgenorman
It doesn't matter much who is elected, they have no real power.
The Deep State operates across borders. The Right is still far too focused on, and I make no apologies for stealing language from the Left, 'flag-shagging'. The problems we collectively face are the same in almost every country in Europe. And yes, I am as guilty as anybody else of this in the past. But we need to start acting far more collectively and cohesively and not allowing the kind of divide and rule tactics are opponents are experts at. The problems native Europeans face in Birmingham or Berlin or Bordeaux are primarily the same. Third-world replacement driven by globalist forces. And all whilst our brothers slaughter each other in Ukraine at the behest of the same people. This has to stop. If the Dissident Right in the EU can somehow unite and work together than I would be all in favour of us rejoining. Because separately, we are all screwed.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell. |
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