If we don’t get rid of Roy after that shambles then we never will.

Goals on the 1st min of the 1st and 2nd half suggests the manager has completely lost the respect of the changing room and any ability to motivate the team.

Our points are saving him ...for the moment.

We have failed to score in 12 games this season.
We also have the second worst defensive record in the league this season.
We neither defend nor attack well.
Our set pieces are shambolic when defending and attacking.
We continually set up in a manner that leaves us outnumbered in midfield.
Leeds and Burnley play in very different styles and we never looked remotely like we knew how to handle either team.
It's a mystery what world renowned coach Hodgson works on in the training ground during the week .

I suppose one could argue that we had a number of players missing through injury including Zaha,Tomkins and Schlupp and with them in the side today it might have been a completely different game.

Dann was selected but he was really found wanting and he is just not up to PL standard any more.
PVA was selected ahead of Mitchell but he was totally embarrassing as he has been in other matches, however Mitchell still has a lot to learn.
Eze is far better centrally where he can drift between the lines and play more as a No 10 but he was selected to play out left and just as at Leeds he is not at his best when he has chalk on his boots.
Benteke and Batshuayi were as awful as as been the case far too often.

We have suffered 2 abject defeats with disgraceful performances,both without Zaha, but prior to them we had back-to-back victories against Wolves and Newcastle.

Of course the manager carries the can but he can only select players who are fit and he is working with a 'Dad's Army' squad who lack energy,mobility and pace.Some of course will opine that he should have selected different players and played with a different shape.

Edited by Willo (13 Feb 2021 6.49pm)

Has he gone yet, Willo had a text, he said.

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

There were a few infuriating decisions today: Andros came on against Leeds and we improved, so why did he start on the bench again? (only to come on and finally add some energy to the team again). Why start with the two Belgians up top, neither who are up to the physicality of Burnley and neither who really works very hard (Mateta looked more of a threat in 15 minutes); why doesn't someone tell PvA he is a left back at Palace, not a left winger at Man Utd? Why does Dann keep getting picked when he is about as slow as Hodgson?

Yes injuries were a big factor today, but the way we set up and some of the selections were just wrong and we all saw it before a ball was kicked, so why didn't Roy? The players looked downtrodden and lacking direction. I want Roy to be able to see out his contract, but f**k me he's making it hard to support that. When you make Burnley look like Barcelona you know you're in trouble.

If we can get Zaha, Tomkins, Schlupp and McArthur back that will make a big difference and Roy will probably get us across the line comfortably, but after the last two games you can't help but start wondering where our next point will come from (especially without Wilf).