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 Mapletree  Croydon 28 May 17 10.48pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Once again just stereotyping. I went to a dreadful comprehensive and my wife a slightly less dreadful comprehensive and there were no tutors to be seen. My daughter got in to her grammar on merit and my son got in on appeal after failing his 11+ by a couple of marks. They both did some practice papers and that is it. You may have noticed I was talking about Croydon and Sutton. Which Sutton school did they end up in?
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| Stirlingsays 28 May 17 10.52pm |
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This reminds me about arguing with Americans about gun control. It isn't about the statistics or really about what's best overall. It's about keeping a system they like and identify with. People will argue an orange is an apple till the cows come home if they want to. I suppose all you can do is put the evidence out there...for example Finland and ask why it's ok to condemn so many kids to a lower education simply because of where and who they were born to.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 29 May 17 11.21am |
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 29 May 17 11.36am |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
[Link] Better than Red or Green.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 29 May 17 11.57am |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
You may have noticed I was talking about Croydon and Sutton. Which Sutton school did they end up in? So just grammar schools in Sutton and Croydon are a bad idea? Right.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 29 May 17 12.10pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Are you saying you didn't pay for tutoring? Bully for you Hrolf but as the number of home tutoring jobs shows....plenty do. Edited by Stirlingsays (28 May 2017 10.43pm) I'm illustrating that it is not necessary or a certainty. In any case, the 11+ is altered every few years to stop tutoring being so effective. Realistically, it's pointless to be better educated in terms of job prospects because only so many jobs exist which require A levels, a degree etc. There has to be a large proportion of people to do blue collar,unskilled etc.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 29 May 17 7.08pm |
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| susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 29 May 17 7.13pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
[Link] Bit of rather old news Nick don't you think??? Dated Thursday 22 September 2016 15.54 BST on your link.
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| Stirlingsays 29 May 17 7.22pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I'm illustrating that it is not necessary or a certainty. In any case, the 11+ is altered every few years to stop tutoring being so effective. Realistically, it's pointless to be better educated in terms of job prospects because only so many jobs exist which require A levels, a degree etc. There has to be a large proportion of people to do blue collar,unskilled etc. It's an industry, the fact that you downplay it makes no difference to the fact that it's an imperfect and unjust system. Just as long as your family are sorted out eh. As for the rest of your comments you appear to be advocating for ignorance. You appear completely unaware that most unskilled jobs are disappearing over the next few decades. A skilled workforce in the right industries is precisely what we need. This idea that we should let the chavs rot is poor future policy for the country. Edited by Stirlingsays (29 May 2017 7.26pm)
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 29 May 17 7.56pm |
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Originally posted by susmik
Bit of rather old news Nick don't you think??? Dated Thursday 22 September 2016 15.54 BST on your link. Still funny though, in a puerile way.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 29 May 17 8.32pm |
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| Hrolf The Ganger 29 May 17 9.41pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
It's an industry, the fact that you downplay it makes no difference to the fact that it's an imperfect and unjust system. Just as long as your family are sorted out eh. As for the rest of your comments you appear to be advocating for ignorance. You appear completely unaware that most unskilled jobs are disappearing over the next few decades. A skilled workforce in the right industries is precisely what we need. This idea that we should let the chavs rot is poor future policy for the country. Edited by Stirlingsays (29 May 2017 7.26pm) Nope. Just realism. I'm all for knowledge for the sake of it as long as we understand it to be so. If everyone is highly qualified then they will have hight expectations, which means they will not want to do the less popular and less well paid work. Only in a utopian society will everyone have a job they like and get well paid while robots do all the dirty work. Is that likely any time soon?
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