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jamiemartin721 Reading 03 Oct 16 4.45pm | |
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Originally posted by Lyons550
Have to disagree...we're now in a better financial state then we were back then (even though its still a dire one) and we'd simply be in far worse debt than we are now with a number of the projects started back then potentially coming to fruition end by the time we pull out of the EU...we'd have lost momentum rather than gearing it up...I think most on here are in agreement that now is the right time to release the schackles so to speak though. For me its all about timing and this is just right to address/head off BREXIT in whatever form it takes rather than having done what you've suggested a few years back and then be left with no plan B...(now where have I heard that before?) Edited by Lyons550 (03 Oct 2016 4.27pm) In all fairness, leaving the EU in a way that appeals to many of the exit voters is going to destroy the housing market anyhow. That half a million or so migrants have been paying off buy to let and second/third mortgages... Take them out of the equation and you'll have a lot of rental property that's 'surplus to requirement', and a lot of people having to find mortgage payments for multiple empty properties and defaulting. Ultimately they'll have to dump property from portfolios, and that will then hit the wider property market (and put a lot of people into negative equity). I don't think there is a viable way of avoiding that either. Could soon be cheaper for the state to buy up property that's defaulted on than build housing.
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Stuk Top half 03 Oct 16 4.54pm | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
In all fairness, leaving the EU in a way that appeals to many of the exit voters is going to destroy the housing market anyhow. That half a million or so migrants have been paying off buy to let and second/third mortgages... Take them out of the equation and you'll have a lot of rental property that's 'surplus to requirement', and a lot of people having to find mortgage payments for multiple empty properties and defaulting. Ultimately they'll have to dump property from portfolios, and that will then hit the wider property market (and put a lot of people into negative equity). I don't think there is a viable way of avoiding that either. Could soon be cheaper for the state to buy up property that's defaulted on than build housing. None of that will happen in a hundred years in the South East, never mind the next few. Then you have northern councils selling off council houses for £1, as no one will move in to them. If they're selling the stock for £1 they'll never be buying ones that are defaulted on for a much higher cost.
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elgrande bedford 03 Oct 16 5.00pm | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
In all fairness, leaving the EU in a way that appeals to many of the exit voters is going to destroy the housing market anyhow. That half a million or so migrants have been paying off buy to let and second/third mortgages... Take them out of the equation and you'll have a lot of rental property that's 'surplus to requirement', and a lot of people having to find mortgage payments for multiple empty properties and defaulting. Ultimately they'll have to dump property from portfolios, and that will then hit the wider property market (and put a lot of people into negative equity). I don't think there is a viable way of avoiding that either. Could soon be cheaper for the state to buy up property that's defaulted on than build housing. Yeah but on the other hand Jamie,when there is a glut of most things,prices tend to come down which if that happens in the private rental market,that can only be a good thing.
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elgrande bedford 03 Oct 16 5.08pm | |
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About the only thing I agree with nick is about social housing.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 03 Oct 16 5.15pm | |
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Originally posted by elgrande
Yeah that's all very well nick,bt you need builders to build houses there is a certain skill set needed. True, but apprentices can be trained on the job.
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Stuk Top half 03 Oct 16 5.16pm | |
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Originally posted by elgrande
About the only thing I agree with nick is about social housing. Well unless councils feel like building them and taking the losses on them too, you'll never find a house builder that will. Affordable housing is one of the stupidest phrases ever created. What they need to have is a mechanism that means you have to move out of council housing once you earn more than x amount, to free up stock, rather than sell them off cheaply to people who can now afford the market rate.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 03 Oct 16 5.17pm | |
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Originally posted by elgrande
About the only thing I agree with nick is about social housing. Why housing association and not council?
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elgrande bedford 03 Oct 16 5.22pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Why housing association and not council? Because most councils sold most of their housing stock HA,s
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 03 Oct 16 7.53pm | |
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Originally posted by elgrande
Because most councils sold most of their housing stock HA,s We're talking about new builds aren't we?
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elgrande bedford 03 Oct 16 9.19pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
We're talking about new builds aren't we? Most new social housing now are housing associations
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 03 Oct 16 9.45pm | |
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Originally posted by elgrande
Most new social housing now are housing associations Yes we've ascertained this. I think social housing should be under local authority control. As should schools.
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.TUX. 04 Oct 16 5.54am | |
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Originally posted by Lyons550
Have to disagree...we're now in a better financial state then we were back then (even though its still a dire one) and we'd simply be in far worse debt than we are now with a number of the projects started back then potentially coming to fruition end by the time we pull out of the EU...we'd have lost momentum rather than gearing it up...I think most on here are in agreement that now is the right time to release the schackles so to speak though. For me its all about timing and this is just right to address/head off BREXIT in whatever form it takes rather than having done what you've suggested a few years back and then be left with no plan B...(now where have I heard that before?) Edited by Lyons550 (03 Oct 2016 4.27pm) 6 (or so) years of austerity measures yet we're still in a ''dire state''? That really should tell you all you need to know.
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