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steeleye20 Croydon 20 Oct 20 5.28pm
Originally posted by palace_in_frogland No, I think the tories northern vote is collapsing. If Corbyn had been elected, by the way, we would have a new agreement and furthermore we would be voting to accept or reject in a new referendum.
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steeleye20

Croydon 20 Oct 20 5.28pm

Originally posted by palace_in_frogland

No, I think the tories northern vote is collapsing.

If Corbyn had been elected, by the way, we would have a new agreement and furthermore we would be voting to accept or reject in a new referendum.

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cryrst The garden of England 20 Oct 20 5.42pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 No, I think the tories northern vote is collapsing. If Corbyn had been elected, by the way, we would have a new agreement and furthermore we would be voting to accept or reject in a new referendum. Three and a half years of stress still for you leftys then. Basking in the glory. And if corbyn had been elected abbott would have given us all a million to stay home and this virus would be gone obviously. Maybe the vote collapsing is labours due to andy pandy sacrificing people for 13 % more money. What a guy.
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cryrst

The garden of England 20 Oct 20 5.42pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

No, I think the tories northern vote is collapsing.

If Corbyn had been elected, by the way, we would have a new agreement and furthermore we would be voting to accept or reject in a new referendum.

Three and a half years of stress still for you leftys then. Basking in the glory.
And if corbyn had been elected abbott would have given us all a million to stay home and this virus would be gone obviously. Maybe the vote collapsing is labours due to andy pandy sacrificing people for 13 % more money. What a guy.

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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 20 Oct 20 6.02pm
Originally posted by serial thriller I also have an oven ready deal for me to play up front for Palace next season on 100k a week. Only thing I need now is for Steve Parish to stop being so stubborn and sign it. Edited by serial thriller (20 Oct 2020 4.48pm) Covid is the best thing that could’ve happened for Brexit - complete distraction and removal of any accountability.
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SE19 20 Oct 20 6.02pm

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Originally posted by serial thriller

I also have an oven ready deal for me to play up front for Palace next season on 100k a week.

Only thing I need now is for Steve Parish to stop being so stubborn and sign it.

Edited by serial thriller (20 Oct 2020 4.48pm)

Covid is the best thing that could’ve happened for Brexit - complete distraction and removal of any accountability.

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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 20 Oct 20 6.06pm
Originally posted by cryrst Three and a half years of stress still for you leftys then. Basking in the glory. And if corbyn had been elected abbott would have given us all a million to stay home and this virus would be gone obviously. Maybe the vote collapsing is labours due to andy pandy sacrificing people for 13 % more money. What a guy. Modern politics in a nutshell - elect one of the worst governments we’ve ever seen and claim it as a win, “bask in the glory” and vote the same failures in again next time round. Depressing.
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EverybodyDannsNow

SE19 20 Oct 20 6.06pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Three and a half years of stress still for you leftys then. Basking in the glory.
And if corbyn had been elected abbott would have given us all a million to stay home and this virus would be gone obviously. Maybe the vote collapsing is labours due to andy pandy sacrificing people for 13 % more money. What a guy.

Modern politics in a nutshell - elect one of the worst governments we’ve ever seen and claim it as a win, “bask in the glory” and vote the same failures in again next time round.

Depressing.

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Matov 20 Oct 20 6.23pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 No, I think the tories northern vote is collapsing. If Corbyn had been elected, by the way, we would have a new agreement and furthermore we would be voting to accept or reject in a new referendum. Firstly I see little evidence of the Tories northern vote 'collapsing'. The polls have shown Labour catching up and even in one over-taking but I believe they have fallen back again. And the reality is that due to Covid no polls can be given any real validity. Johnson is not even 1 year into a 5 year term and with a huge majority, is not going anywhere any time soon. As to your onastic fantasys about a second referendum I suspect we would not have a 'deal'. Essentially Labour would have agreed to agree to anything the EU asked before putting that to us along with the option of Remaining. Followed by a farce of a vote in the face of an organised boycott along with millions unwilling to pay it any attention. Brexit would not have been sorted, merely elevated to even more division in the country. Or do you honestly think it would settle the issue? Do you think people would just sit back and accept the outcome? Edited by Matov (20 Oct 2020 6.24pm) "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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20 Oct 20 6.23pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

No, I think the tories northern vote is collapsing.

If Corbyn had been elected, by the way, we would have a new agreement and furthermore we would be voting to accept or reject in a new referendum.

Firstly I see little evidence of the Tories northern vote 'collapsing'. The polls have shown Labour catching up and even in one over-taking but I believe they have fallen back again.

And the reality is that due to Covid no polls can be given any real validity. Johnson is not even 1 year into a 5 year term and with a huge majority, is not going anywhere any time soon.

As to your onastic fantasys about a second referendum I suspect we would not have a 'deal'. Essentially Labour would have agreed to agree to anything the EU asked before putting that to us along with the option of Remaining.

Followed by a farce of a vote in the face of an organised boycott along with millions unwilling to pay it any attention. Brexit would not have been sorted, merely elevated to even more division in the country. Or do you honestly think it would settle the issue? Do you think people would just sit back and accept the outcome?

Edited by Matov (20 Oct 2020 6.24pm)

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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cryrst The garden of England 20 Oct 20 9.52pm
Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow Modern politics in a nutshell - elect one of the worst governments we’ve ever seen and claim it as a win, “bask in the glory” and vote the same failures in again next time round. Depressing. That's a matter of opinion and fortunately either of us could be correct.
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cryrst

The garden of England 20 Oct 20 9.52pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Modern politics in a nutshell - elect one of the worst governments we’ve ever seen and claim it as a win, “bask in the glory” and vote the same failures in again next time round.

Depressing.

That's a matter of opinion and fortunately either of us could be correct.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 20 Oct 20 11.15pm
Originally posted by Maine Eagle Oops. What happened to Boris Johnson's oven ready deal? He forgot to check whether those who were at the dinner table were likely to want to eat Turkey Twizzlers and gravy with a side of bs. They are looking for something more sophisticated. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 20 Oct 20 11.15pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Oops. What happened to Boris Johnson's oven ready deal?

He forgot to check whether those who were at the dinner table were likely to want to eat Turkey Twizzlers and gravy with a side of bs.

They are looking for something more sophisticated.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 20 Oct 20 11.55pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle He forgot to check whether those who were at the dinner table were likely to want to eat Turkey Twizzlers and gravy with a side of bs. They are looking for something more sophisticated. Well, the other option is spam. [Link] Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

He forgot to check whether those who were at the dinner table were likely to want to eat Turkey Twizzlers and gravy with a side of bs.

They are looking for something more sophisticated.

Well, the other option is spam.

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Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

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Maine Eagle USA 21 Oct 20 3.19pm
Originally posted by Badger11 It's Canada plus and would be oven ready if the EU accepted it. However they haven't so we now go with no deal and tell their fishermen to keep out of our waters. Oh so it was oven ready, except the guy who owns the other half of the oven unfortunately disagreed. Not oven ready then was it. You got lied to. I guess Boris should have said it was 50% oven ready. Not so catchy though eh. Cant put that on a bus. Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.
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Maine Eagle

USA 21 Oct 20 3.19pm

Originally posted by Badger11

It's Canada plus and would be oven ready if the EU accepted it. However they haven't so we now go with no deal and tell their fishermen to keep out of our waters.

Oh so it was oven ready, except the guy who owns the other half of the oven unfortunately disagreed.

Not oven ready then was it.

You got lied to. I guess Boris should have said it was 50% oven ready.

Not so catchy though eh. Cant put that on a bus.

Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

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Badger11 Beckenham 21 Oct 20 3.51pm
Originally posted by Maine Eagle Oh so it was oven ready, except the guy who owns the other half of the oven unfortunately disagreed. Not oven ready then was it. You got lied to. I guess Boris should have said it was 50% oven ready. Not so catchy though eh. Cant put that on a bus. I think it was a valid comment all the UK asked for was the same as Canada had got plus a few extras. This deal had been previously offered to Mrs May and she had turned it down. The EU have now decided that they can't or won't offer us this deal. If they will not budge then there is nothing to negotiate and there fisherman will be out of our waters and probably out of jobs instead of being in them with a reduced catch. If I was the EU I would recognize the inevitable that it is our sovereign territory and focus on getting the best deal for their fishermen. It is all well and good the Eurocracts drawing a line and saying they will not cross but the're not the ones who will lose their jobs. I bet the fisherman would like them to negotiate. Edited by Badger11 (21 Oct 2020 3.54pm) Edited by Badger11 (21 Oct 2020 3.55pm) One more point
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Badger11

Beckenham 21 Oct 20 3.51pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Oh so it was oven ready, except the guy who owns the other half of the oven unfortunately disagreed.

Not oven ready then was it.

You got lied to. I guess Boris should have said it was 50% oven ready.

Not so catchy though eh. Cant put that on a bus.

I think it was a valid comment all the UK asked for was the same as Canada had got plus a few extras.

This deal had been previously offered to Mrs May and she had turned it down. The EU have now decided that they can't or won't offer us this deal.

If they will not budge then there is nothing to negotiate and there fisherman will be out of our waters and probably out of jobs instead of being in them with a reduced catch.

If I was the EU I would recognize the inevitable that it is our sovereign territory and focus on getting the best deal for their fishermen. It is all well and good the Eurocracts drawing a line and saying they will not cross but the're not the ones who will lose their jobs. I bet the fisherman would like them to negotiate.

Edited by Badger11 (21 Oct 2020 3.54pm)

Edited by Badger11 (21 Oct 2020 3.55pm)

One more point

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steeleye20 Croydon 21 Oct 20 4.48pm
On the contrary the new EU SURE job support program, massively over-subscribed yesterday, will keep europeans in work and protect living standards. Whether there is a deal or not, there is bound to be a big shake-out of British jobs, the Chancellors gimmicks will not save them. Combine that with the pandemic and you have a disaster. I think fishing is the last of our worries.
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steeleye20

Croydon 21 Oct 20 4.48pm

On the contrary the new EU SURE job support program, massively over-subscribed yesterday, will keep europeans in work and protect living standards.

Whether there is a deal or not, there is bound to be a big shake-out of British jobs, the Chancellors gimmicks will not save them.

Combine that with the pandemic and you have a disaster.

I think fishing is the last of our worries.

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