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 ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 06 Mar 24 10.48am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
If another pandemic hit next week do you really think we'd lockdown to the tune if £350 bn again? Would we f***! We've paid the pharmaceuticals - it's the defence industry's turn presently, then oil.
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eaglesdare  06 Mar 24 10.51am |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Would we f***! We've paid the pharmaceuticals - it's the defence industry's turn presently, then oil. Ireland would jump at the chance too.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 06 Mar 24 5.18pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Yes. Including these remarks? “The survey does not include data on: “Staff who are not present at work and not in direct patient contact for that survey period. Organisations not submitting data. Where trusts and organisations, such as ISHCPs, have missing records of vaccination for their frontline staff, the reported uptake may be an underestimate. The same data collection methodology has been used for 20 years (since 2002 to 2003), producing a data series analysing longer-term trends.” The point being that this data determines trends and not absolutes. The “chart” deliberately ignored that.
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| ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 06 Mar 24 5.21pm |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
Ireland would jump at the chance too. True - we love an auld lockdown. Especially when it's just the people and The Dail bar stays open.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 06 Mar 24 5.28pm |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
A simple google and you will have you answers. A simple google shows just either just how little you understand or just how much you are prepared to misrepresent. The recent CDC statement is about how we should manage Covid NOW. Not 2 or 3 years ago. That’s because the pandemic has been brought under control through the vaccination programme and prior exposure building up sufficient immunity in most people. That wasn’t the case when we did not have the vaccines, when the disease was poorly understood and threatened to overwhelm the provision of our healthcare systems. Perhaps you genuinely don’t understand but given your past comments I suspect that you are being wilfully argumentative.
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Teddy Eagle  06 Mar 24 6.15pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Including these remarks? “The survey does not include data on: “Staff who are not present at work and not in direct patient contact for that survey period. Organisations not submitting data. Where trusts and organisations, such as ISHCPs, have missing records of vaccination for their frontline staff, the reported uptake may be an underestimate. The same data collection methodology has been used for 20 years (since 2002 to 2003), producing a data series analysing longer-term trends.” The point being that this data determines trends and not absolutes. The “chart” deliberately ignored that. That's the fault of those collecting and presenting the data. Whatever caveats you insert the vaccinated percentage is lower than we should expect from those who are supposed to be encouraging others.
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| eaglesdare 06 Mar 24 6.46pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
A simple google shows just either just how little you understand or just how much you are prepared to misrepresent. The recent CDC statement is about how we should manage Covid NOW. Not 2 or 3 years ago. That’s because the pandemic has been brought under control through the vaccination programme and prior exposure building up sufficient immunity in most people. That wasn’t the case when we did not have the vaccines, when the disease was poorly understood and threatened to overwhelm the provision of our healthcare systems. Perhaps you genuinely don’t understand but given your past comments I suspect that you are being wilfully argumentative. You can't spell gullible without your 10th booster shot.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 06 Mar 24 7.24pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
That's the fault of those collecting and presenting the data. Whatever caveats you insert the vaccinated percentage is lower than we should expect from those who are supposed to be encouraging others. No it isn’t. It’s no one’s “fault” if the data isn’t collected by the Trusts who have got rather a lot of important work to do. Who knows what the true picture is without all the data. I don’t know how much is missing. Nor do you and nor does whoever produced that “chart”. Therefore that “chart” is misinformation. I can though tell you that my wife, who has had all the boosters, confirms that a number of her young colleagues who are entitled to receive the boosters as frontline workers but who would not if they weren’t, have decided they are well enough protected now after several vaccinations and infections. My understanding is they want to see the vulnerable get the priority.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 06 Mar 24 7.26pm |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
You can't spell gullible without your 10th booster shot. You can’t post comments without confirming your gullibility.
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| Teddy Eagle 06 Mar 24 7.33pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No it isn’t. It’s no one’s “fault” if the data isn’t collected by the Trusts who have got rather a lot of important work to do. Who knows what the true picture is without all the data. I don’t know how much is missing. Nor do you and nor does whoever produced that “chart”. Therefore that “chart” is misinformation. I can though tell you that my wife, who has had all the boosters, confirms that a number of her young colleagues who are entitled to receive the boosters as frontline workers but who would not if they weren’t, have decided they are well enough protected now after several vaccinations and infections. My understanding is they want to see the vulnerable get the priority. Yes it is. If they don't have the time to collect all the information then it serves no purpose. They might as well take a sample and extrapolate from that.
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| eaglesdare 06 Mar 24 7.38pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You can’t post comments without confirming your gullibility. I hope you are still wearing your mask it might stop half the BS transmission that comes out of your mouth.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 06 Mar 24 8.07pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Yes it is. If they don't have the time to collect all the information then it serves no purpose. They might as well take a sample and extrapolate from that. The purpose is clearly explained. It determines trends and is used internally. It is not intended to present an overall picture for external consumption and for use by sceptics with agendas. Those who refused vaccinations when the threat was high and the NHS in danger of being overwhelmed were indeed selfish, whether they worked for the NHS or not. These days only the vulnerable are receiving boosters so it makes some sense for the age group now known to be at a lower risk to step back.
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