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Stirlingsays 30 Nov 20 9.09pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Glad you spotted my little bit of fun! It's something you could reflect on. If God suddenly appeared as a burning bush and asked you to lead Cornwall in a new 'It's a Knockout' tournament.....You'd spend twenty minutes arguing with him over rule changes.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Nov 20 9.10pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Don't play golf, but was there with a group of colleagues from all over the world who do, and the owner of the business who thought he ought to, for a conference. Am meetings, pm golf. I, and a couple of others, fished. Which in Florida can be exceptional but expensive.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Nov 20 9.12pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
It's something you could reflect on. If God suddenly appeared as a burning bush and asked you to lead Cornwall in a new 'It's a Knockout' tournament.....You'd spend twenty minutes arguing with him over rule changes. I'd spend longer demanding he prove himself as real and that the bush wasn't a conspiracy theory.
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Stirlingsays 30 Nov 20 9.28pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I'd spend longer demanding he prove himself as real and that the bush wasn't a conspiracy theory. Well he gave them four terms what more proof could you ask for?
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Nov 20 10.38pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
what symptoms did you have wissie or were you just tested by age selection. I dont have any issues but need to know what to look for or a feeling you might get. I will tell the whole story so you can pick the bones out of it. I was diagnosed by accident! I went to the GP with backache. He had a hunch. He probably saved my life. Prostate cancer can move to the bones. He arranged a blood test. My PSA, which is the indicator for prostate cancer, was high. A DRE (finger test) revealed a tumour, a subsequent biopsy that it needed treatment and then things moved fast. I had a prostatectomy (removal) in a 3-hour op. The post-op biopsy showed it was a 4+3 cancer. For the first years, no more PSA was found, which indicates complete success as the prostate is the only place PSA can be made. If any is found it means some cancer cells have escaped. If the PSA level increases it means they are growing and the "doubling time" indicates how fast. I was told I was cured but should continue checking. 4 years ago it was detected again. Very low level, but there and was growing. So I was given 6 weeks of radiotherapy and it disappeared again. Keep on checking though and then last year it was back again and this time radiotherapy wasn't possible. It's doubling quick enough to be a concern but not an immediate problem. Hormone therapy comes next, which has nasty side effects, so it's only given when it becomes absolutely necessary. I was showing what I now know to be symptoms for years before I was diagnosed. Frequent night peeing. Restricted and slow flow. I even had a "TURPS" for an enlarged prostate, when they remove part as that was thought to be the reason, but the cancer wasn't found. So if you detect any of the symptoms go get your PSA tested. If you have the slightest doubt go and get tested. It's a simple blood test, with a quick turnaround. I can go in the morning and see the result online that afternoon. The doctors don't test by age or routinely. Unlike breast cancer. The NHS is, I believe, concerned that too many early-stage cancers would be found which won't yet need any treatment but worry people. Sorry for the long story, but I hope it helps.
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cryrst The garden of England 01 Dec 20 5.21am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I will tell the whole story so you can pick the bones out of it. I was diagnosed by accident! I went to the GP with backache. He had a hunch. He probably saved my life. Prostate cancer can move to the bones. He arranged a blood test. My PSA, which is the indicator for prostate cancer, was high. A DRE (finger test) revealed a tumour, a subsequent biopsy that it needed treatment and then things moved fast. I had a prostatectomy (removal) in a 3-hour op. The post-op biopsy showed it was a 4+3 cancer. For the first years, no more PSA was found, which indicates complete success as the prostate is the only place PSA can be made. If any is found it means some cancer cells have escaped. If the PSA level increases it means they are growing and the "doubling time" indicates how fast. I was told I was cured but should continue checking. 4 years ago it was detected again. Very low level, but there and was growing. So I was given 6 weeks of radiotherapy and it disappeared again. Keep on checking though and then last year it was back again and this time radiotherapy wasn't possible. It's doubling quick enough to be a concern but not an immediate problem. Hormone therapy comes next, which has nasty side effects, so it's only given when it becomes absolutely necessary. I was showing what I now know to be symptoms for years before I was diagnosed. Frequent night peeing. Restricted and slow flow. I even had a "TURPS" for an enlarged prostate, when they remove part as that was thought to be the reason, but the cancer wasn't found. So if you detect any of the symptoms go get your PSA tested. If you have the slightest doubt go and get tested. It's a simple blood test, with a quick turnaround. I can go in the morning and see the result online that afternoon. The doctors don't test by age or routinely. Unlike breast cancer. The NHS is, I believe, concerned that too many early-stage cancers would be found which won't yet need any treatment but worry people. Sorry for the long story, but I hope it helps. So a backache for a while then or just very severe for a few days on and off over time. Sounds like you've been through the mill wissie. Well done for being so positive. Being personal what's the bottom line on time for you as you say it's slow growing atm. What are the side effects to hormone therapy?
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 01 Dec 20 7.47am | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
So a backache for a while then or just very severe for a few days on and off over time. Sounds like you've been through the mill wissie. Well done for being so positive. Being personal what's the bottom line on time for you as you say it's slow growing atm. What are the side effects to hormone therapy? You aren't being the least nosey. This needs to be talked about as it's the most common cancer for men and too many ignore it. It's so long ago that I cannot remember how bad the backache was but nothing very dramatic. It got a little bit sidelined! It's still there though bone scans reveal no cancer in them. Prostate cancer cells can escape and grow elsewhere and it seems that the bones are a popular home for the little rascals. The prognosis is uncertain. More people die with it than of it. The hormone therapy curtails your production of testosterone which is what these cancer cells feed on. This then slows their growth but doesn't eliminate it. The hormone given is estrogen-based and the side effects are weight gain, especially in "non-manly" places, lethargy and mood swings. So deciding when to start and at what level is important. There are also new treatments being trialled, which might involve me. On the plus side, it's been a long time since this was first diagnosed and the recurrence came late so they think the cells that escaped might be weaker as a consequence. Which is countered by the increasing rate I am now seeing. So lots of unknowns. Nothing to be done but carry on, enjoy every day, stay happy and useful, be as kind to those you love, and pass on as much of the little wisdom as you have acquired to them as possible. I am blessed by having the most wonderful wife any man could hope for, who worries how she will manage without me. Which is my principal reason for being determined to be around for a long time yet.
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cryrst The garden of England 01 Dec 20 8.03am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You aren't being the least nosey. This needs to be talked about as it's the most common cancer for men and too many ignore it. It's so long ago that I cannot remember how bad the backache was but nothing very dramatic. It got a little bit sidelined! It's still there though bone scans reveal no cancer in them. Prostate cancer cells can escape and grow elsewhere and it seems that the bones are a popular home for the little rascals. The prognosis is uncertain. More people die with it than of it. The hormone therapy curtails your production of testosterone which is what these cancer cells feed on. This then slows their growth but doesn't eliminate it. The hormone given is estrogen-based and the side effects are weight gain, especially in "non-manly" places, lethargy and mood swings. So deciding when to start and at what level is important. There are also new treatments being trialled, which might involve me. On the plus side, it's been a long time since this was first diagnosed and the recurrence came late so they think the cells that escaped might be weaker as a consequence. Which is countered by the increasing rate I am now seeing. So lots of unknowns. Nothing to be done but carry on, enjoy every day, stay happy and useful, be as kind to those you love, and pass on as much of the little wisdom as you have acquired to them as possible. I am blessed by having the most wonderful wife any man could hope for, who worries how she will manage without me. Which is my principal reason for being determined to be around for a long time yet. Like I said you are very positive and your wife's worry although not nice helps with your commitment to carry on.
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Stirlingsays 01 Dec 20 10.32am | |
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Notice how quiet Democrat and Democratic supporters are about election interference after this election. You could hear a pin drop.
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mezzer Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 01 Dec 20 11.35am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
It's something you could reflect on. If God suddenly appeared as a burning bush and asked you to lead Cornwall in a new 'It's a Knockout' tournament.....You'd spend twenty minutes arguing with him over rule changes. I think there's something about that on the Bizarre Women You've Dated thread
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Spiderman Horsham 01 Dec 20 11.47am | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Like I said you are very positive and your wife's worry although not nice helps with your commitment to carry on. I concur with all of this
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cryrst The garden of England 01 Dec 20 11.48am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Notice how quiet Democrat and Democratic supporters are about election interference after this election. You could hear a pin drop. The dominian boss has gone AWOL apparently.
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