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 Teddy Eagle  05 Mar 24 10.48pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Trying to measure the cost of our response to the pandemic involves a great deal more than just trying to estimate the cost of “lockdowns”! Every country would have had costs, whatever they did, even it was nothing at all. Indeed trying to measure the cost of us doing nothing, with the resulting costs to our healthcare systems, loss of life and economic and social chaos, is something that nobody has attempted. Making comparisons with any other country, with different demographics, standards of public behaviour and functioning health care services is to deliberately mislead. So for sure there were costs. Every crisis produces costs. The best estimate I can find comes from here:- Note that this ranges from £310 to £410 billion. Not £450 billion. Lots of debt that would not have been taken to build hospitals or aircraft carriers. We don’t need 60 aircraft carriers. We did need to protect people from an unknown disease that we were completely unprepared for and which threatened to decimate us. Of course there will always be those who know better and do on every subject known to mankind. If another pandemic hit next week do you really think we'd lockdown to the tune if £350 bn again?
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Stirlingsays  05 Mar 24 11.18pm |
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Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Mar 2024 11.19pm)
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| eaglesdare 06 Mar 24 12.50am |
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The CDC finally agrees with what the "Anti vaxers" said back in 2020 that it should be treated as the common flu. I believe the 10th shot should be available for the gullible folk soon too.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 06 Mar 24 8.23am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
So the point about doctors and nurses mean nothing. It wasn’t the point. Try reading what the government explainer explains about the frailty of the data and the reasons why it is collected. It is not intended to offer any kind of overall assessment and whoever produced the “chart” did so with the intention of misleading.
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| Teddy Eagle 06 Mar 24 8.27am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It wasn’t the point. Try reading what the government explainer explains about the frailty of the data and the reasons why it is collected. It is not intended to offer any kind of overall assessment and whoever produced the “chart” did so with the intention of misleading. That’s the raw data, without any breakdown into doctors, nurses etc. Wasn't the point? OK.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 06 Mar 24 8.35am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
If another pandemic hit next week do you really think we'd lockdown to the tune if £350 bn again? Impossible to know until we understood the severity of the threat. Our last experience will have taught us lessons about how we need to act quickly and decisively and the best ways to protect the extremely vulnerable, so if another of Covid severity happened we may well handle it differently. Whether that would mean avoiding lockdowns completely ior, more likely, have shorter and more targeted ones is unknown. That’s why we are holding the enquiry.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 06 Mar 24 8.36am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
That’s the raw data, without any breakdown into doctors, nurses etc. Wasn't the point? OK. It isn’t. It’s only part of the raw data. Some is not collected.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 06 Mar 24 8.39am |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
The CDC finally agrees with what the "Anti vaxers" said back in 2020 that it should be treated as the common flu. I believe the 10th shot should be available for the gullible folk soon too. Somehow I doubt that and think it’s much more likely you are spinning a statement to suit your particular narrative but let’s see the evidence.
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| Teddy Eagle 06 Mar 24 8.48am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It isn’t. It’s only part of the raw data. Some is not collected. So the graph produced represents the available data. If more data is collected, or released, the graph can be amended.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 06 Mar 24 9.12am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
So the graph produced represents the available data. If more data is collected, or released, the graph can be amended. Have you read the “explainer”?
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| Teddy Eagle 06 Mar 24 9.18am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Have you read the “explainer”? Yes.
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| eaglesdare 06 Mar 24 10.46am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Somehow I doubt that and think it’s much more likely you are spinning a statement to suit your particular narrative but let’s see the evidence. A simple google and you will have you answers.
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