JD Vance literally referred to the possibility that there was a danger that Trump could become 'Americas Hitler' not that long ago. He may even have coined the phrase.

How does that fit in with your partisan ideology?

A good point.

There are always media stories about the increased use of tasers by the police, but so far I have not seen a discussion that included DEI.

Is it possible that the increased use is because some officers are not physically capable of handling a situation the old fashion way?

I guess politicians are too scared to suggest that a small person may not be the best choice to tackle a big thug in a fight and so is forced to use a Taser where a large man would subdue the aggressor with their physicality.

If that is the case I don't have a problem with say women police officers using Tasers but let's be honest about it. The left want DEI but then condemn police for the over use of Tasers.

While it's certainly true that the rhetoric in this election have reached quite absurd levels.....I mean the idea that Trump is Hitler, floated by Biden himself is quite dangerously absurd.

However, what isn't absurd is the sheer number of Democrat supporters willing to believe this nonsense.

However, I'll make two observations here.

One is that ideas and criticisms must be protected in the public discourse and I think the first amendment definitely protects that. However, like everything else it can be abused and both media take this law to its extreme egged on...in many cases by each other.

The only thing that could dial this back is the kind of reserve and standards that were taken for granted within more socially conservative societies....but I'm not sure that these standards can be achieved again given the polarisation that a social media age creates.

Observation two is that Biden is...quite rightly....getting criticism for what he's said about Trump, however if Biden had been the person shot at and had his ear damaged then the media would be playing Trump's comments and saying all the same things to him.....admittedly in a far far more aggressive and accusatory tone than with Biden.

They both do it, but they are a symptom of the schism within America rather than its cause. The dramatic shift the Democrats took to the left twenty years ago resulted in reactionary shifts from the right.

For example, Trump would have never have came to power without Obama.

Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Jul 2024 1.13pm)

Cite examples please

I think you're citing the never Trumpers who are and were just as over the top as the Democrats....obviously there are few examples of them.

However, I think the VP pick did make mention of this at the candidate stage in 2015/16 ago but changed his tune years ago now.

I don't think it's correct to say that the past was anywhere near this polarized. I'm 55 soon and I've literally lived and remember US politics from the early 80s onwards. It wasn't friendly sure but it just wasn't this aggressive or hyperbolic.

Assassinations of the past were more common because the lessons, protections and technology to evade them weren't available like today.

Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Jul 2024 1.43pm)

LOLE

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So Vance has a colourful and hyperbolic style because he's a Republican, and Democrats (actually all politicians) don't?

Seems very convenient to me. As usual.