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SurbsEagle Flag 13 Aug 24 1.23pm Send a Private Message to SurbsEagle Add SurbsEagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Ooooh! Do you think?

You obviously still have a small club mentality, along with some of the others on here.

No. This club needs to recognise that its best way forward is to be great on the pitch. That is what ultimately generates money.

Selling a top player for big money will result in reinvesting it in players who are likely to be worse, or seeing it disappear into someone's pocket.

Whether selling Guehi in particular will make a big impact on our performance is debatable, but it is about the message we send out to other clubs, fans and prospective signings.

If we are ambitious, then we have to look like it.

Surely the message we send to future prospective players is that they look at the situation with Olise and potentially Guehi and think that Palace is a great place to grow, learn your trade and move up in your football career. It means we are more likely to attract a higher standard of young player in the future, which is beneficial for everyone involved.

Also, just to highlight that Leicester won the league - which to your point is the greatest you can be on the pitch - and they ended up being relegated. Long term success isn't defined in a singular season, you have to generate a more successful machine to be able to regularly compete and the hierarchy of our club are currently doing that. Whether fans like it or not, Rome wasn't built in a day unfortunately.

 

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SurbsEagle Flag 13 Aug 24 1.26pm Send a Private Message to SurbsEagle Add SurbsEagle as a friend

Originally posted by Uphill

Whatever we get, if sold, is minus the 25% sell on clause owing to Chelsea when we bought him for £18 million.

So, if he goes for £60 million we make a net profit of £27 million.

Enough to finance a couple of promising youngsters from Europe or the Championship.

Replacing Olise is the more urgent problem right now.

I'd heard that the sell on percentage to Chelsea is 20% and ONLY on the profit we make, NOT the overall selling price. Therefore, if we sold him for £60m, we would make £42m profit and therefore owe Chelsea £8.4m in sell-on fee.

 

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taylors lovechild Flag 13 Aug 24 1.29pm Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

When you hear ex-managers talk about players wanting to leave the general consensus is that once a player decides they want to leave there's not much you can do. Whether Guehi wants to leave with any degree of desperation is not clear. If you start chaining players to the goal posts it creates disharmony plus it sends out a bad message to any prospective signings. So for me it's less about whether the club can make money to reinvest and more about whether Guehi wants to stay at Palace. If he does then refuse the bids and get him to sign a new deal and if he doesn't then get the best deal we can and move on. Every club has to cross that bridge. Just look at Alvarez leaving Man City for Athletico.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 13 Aug 24 1.38pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

When you hear ex-managers talk about players wanting to leave the general consensus is that once a player decides they want to leave there's not much you can do. Whether Guehi wants to leave with any degree of desperation is not clear. If you start chaining players to the goal posts it creates disharmony plus it sends out a bad message to any prospective signings. So for me it's less about whether the club can make money to reinvest and more about whether Guehi wants to stay at Palace. If he does then refuse the bids and get him to sign a new deal and if he doesn't then get the best deal we can and move on. Every club has to cross that bridge. Just look at Alvarez leaving Man City for Athletico.

The man signed a contract. He has to honour it.

City can sell Alvarez and sign a player equally good.

Can we sign a player as good as Guehi?

Will the business minds on here only be happy when we are circling the Premier League plug hole once again?

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (13 Aug 2024 1.38pm)

 

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taylors lovechild Flag 13 Aug 24 2.28pm Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The man signed a contract. He has to honour it.

City can sell Alvarez and sign a player equally good.

Can we sign a player as good as Guehi?

Will the business minds on here only be happy when we are circling the Premier League plug hole once again?

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (13 Aug 2024 1.38pm)

If players felt they could never join a big club if they signed a contract then the best ones would all want one- or two-year deals. This is not to say the club should accept any offer, just that if the player says they want to leave and a club meets Palace's valuation then it seems counterproductive to force him to stay. Wilf stayed because no one came close to the club's valuation of him. I do understand your position and I agree that I'd rather watch great players than a pile of cash, but I think also you have to accept that the best players are always going to want to move onto bigger and better clubs. It's just a fact. The key is bigger clubs understanding that if they want our best players then they will pay top price. There are no bargains to be had.

 

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Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 13 Aug 24 3.00pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You talk like you know the club accounts.

This club is under no pressure to sell. We just made 55 million on Olise.

I don't know what business you are in, but I've been retired since I was 47. I don't think with a narrow view. I see the bigger picture.
There is no future in selling players unless you can attract ones of the same calibre.

City can do that. Liverpool can do that. Real Madrid can do that.

Do you think we can do that?

No, Of course we cant, 2023 Revenue Real Madrid 1Bn Euros, Mancity 826m, Liverpool 638m, Palace 218m, Get a grip, your making yourself look a bit Silly

 


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MFW94 Flag Sutton 13 Aug 24 3.54pm Send a Private Message to MFW94 Add MFW94 as a friend

Parish just been on Sky sports:

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NMPalace Flag 13 Aug 24 3.55pm Send a Private Message to NMPalace Add NMPalace as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

No, Of course we cant, 2023 Revenue Real Madrid 1Bn Euros, Mancity 826m, Liverpool 638m, Palace 218m, Get a grip, your making yourself look a bit Silly

In Holf's defence he's been doing that on here for quite a while.

In Premier League terms we are a small club - having a small club mentality is surely the right approach.

I remember when Charlton thought they were bigger than they were and look at them now.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 13 Aug 24 3.59pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

No, Of course we cant, 2023 Revenue Real Madrid 1Bn Euros, Mancity 826m, Liverpool 638m, Palace 218m, Get a grip, your making yourself look a bit Silly

Looking silly to you is a compliment.

You are avoiding the simple truth.

You are seeing straight past the simple reality.

Big clubs can buy and sell top quality players.

We can only sell top quality players and fill the gaps with prospects.
Sometimes that comes off and sometimes it doesn't.
We have sold one top quality player already this season.

How many can we sell and replace and not become relegation candidates?

To paraphrase Steve Parish. Guehi is a superstar player and generational talent. He is worth superstar money.

Unless a club makes a massive bid for him, why on earth should we sell him? He could be the difference between mediocrity and Europe.
And what if someone comes in genuinely for Eze or Mateta or Wharton?

Shall we improve our bank balance by selling them too? I know that would make you happy and probably send us to the Championship.
But hey. We could make up for the 100 million we lose by selling the rest of the squad.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (13 Aug 2024 4.02pm)

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 13 Aug 24 4.07pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by NMPalace

In Holf's defence he's been doing that on here for quite a while.

In Premier League terms we are a small club - having a small club mentality is surely the right approach.

I remember when Charlton thought they were bigger than they were and look at them now.

Nice one. Let's make it personal.

We will remain a small Premier League club if we continue to sell our best players.

You seem to find the good players make you win games theory difficult to grasp.

Are you sure you watch football?

 

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YT Flag Oxford 13 Aug 24 4.09pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

Who is currently our lowest e is and where does Guehi rank as an e?

Edited by silvertop (13 Aug 2024 10.43am)

Eze and don't know.

Oops! Misread the question. Eze is of course our highest 'e'.

Edited by YT (13 Aug 2024 4.09pm)

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 13 Aug 24 4.12pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

We just don't have to sell.

Quite a nice position to be in.

 


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