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Hrolf The Ganger 27 Jul 23 12.19pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle If I faced the same issue, which is unlikely as I have neither the money nor the public persona, I would deal with this privately. People in the public eye rightly demand their private lives remain private. They therefore have a duty to keep them private and not exploit them when it suits them. Prince Harry gets roasted for hypocrisy for such things. Farage is doing this only to gain political advantage and leverage. He had every right to ask the bank for an explanation but he went full on public making ridiculous claims about thousands of others. If he had not done so maybe the bank’s CEO would not have felt the need to give her interview to the BBC. His bank account has not been withdrawn because of his politics. That’s Farage spin. It’s been withdrawn because they have assessed a reputational risk. This only went his way because he exposed it. Are you keeping up? It has been established, even admitted by the head of Nat West that it was because of his political opinions. You know, the woman with purple hair. Dead give away really. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (27 Jul 2023 12.21pm)
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

If I faced the same issue, which is unlikely as I have neither the money nor the public persona, I would deal with this privately. People in the public eye rightly demand their private lives remain private. They therefore have a duty to keep them private and not exploit them when it suits them. Prince Harry gets roasted for hypocrisy for such things.

Farage is doing this only to gain political advantage and leverage. He had every right to ask the bank for an explanation but he went full on public making ridiculous claims about thousands of others. If he had not done so maybe the bank’s CEO would not have felt the need to give her interview to the BBC.

His bank account has not been withdrawn because of his politics. That’s Farage spin. It’s been withdrawn because they have assessed a reputational risk.

This only went his way because he exposed it. Are you keeping up?

It has been established, even admitted by the head of Nat West that it was because of his political opinions.

You know, the woman with purple hair. Dead give away really.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (27 Jul 2023 12.21pm)

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Stirlingsays 27 Jul 23 12.28pm
Funny how institutions that have and continue to hold Saudi and other extremely dubiously acquired or politically contentious money are suddenly concerned about reputation. It's just more lies from liars attempting to cover their tracks. Fortunately freedom of information uncovered these liars and now a price is going to be paid.....far more important than some diversity hire losing her job are the laws that will emerge. The left hate that Farage has power but it's obvious that the current Tory government are going to bat for him as he's popular with their base and banks aren't......well they aren't popular with any base. However, Labour will use this as an opportunity to suck up to them....it can be noted that they are of course more than happy with people's bank accounts being closed for political reasons....they just won't say it openly. To be honest the Tories weren't bothered either but now the issue is out in the open they have to act. Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Jul 2023 12.29pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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27 Jul 23 12.28pm

Funny how institutions that have and continue to hold Saudi and other extremely dubiously acquired or politically contentious money are suddenly concerned about reputation.

It's just more lies from liars attempting to cover their tracks.

Fortunately freedom of information uncovered these liars and now a price is going to be paid.....far more important than some diversity hire losing her job are the laws that will emerge.

The left hate that Farage has power but it's obvious that the current Tory government are going to bat for him as he's popular with their base and banks aren't......well they aren't popular with any base.

However, Labour will use this as an opportunity to suck up to them....it can be noted that they are of course more than happy with people's bank accounts being closed for political reasons....they just won't say it openly.

To be honest the Tories weren't bothered either but now the issue is out in the open they have to act.

Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Jul 2023 12.29pm)

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Hrolf The Ganger 27 Jul 23 12.54pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Funny how institutions that have and continue to hold Saudi and other extremely dubiously acquired or politically contentious money are suddenly concerned about reputation. It's just more lies from liars attempting to cover their tracks. Fortunately freedom of information uncovered these liars and now a price is going to be paid.....far more important than some diversity hire losing her job are the laws that will emerge. The left hate that Farage has power but it's obvious that the current Tory government are going to bat for him as he's popular with their base and banks aren't......well they aren't popular with any base. However, Labour will use this as an opportunity to suck up to them....it can be noted that they are of course more than happy with people's bank accounts being closed for political reasons....they just won't say it openly. To be honest the Tories weren't bothered either but now the issue is out in the open they have to act. Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Jul 2023 12.29pm) You have to wonder if the Tories are actually trying to win the next election. The best way to regain popularity would be to have a Labour government.
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27 Jul 23 12.54pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Funny how institutions that have and continue to hold Saudi and other extremely dubiously acquired or politically contentious money are suddenly concerned about reputation.

It's just more lies from liars attempting to cover their tracks.

Fortunately freedom of information uncovered these liars and now a price is going to be paid.....far more important than some diversity hire losing her job are the laws that will emerge.

To be honest the Tories weren't bothered either but now the issue is out in the open they have to act.

Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Jul 2023 12.29pm)

You have to wonder if the Tories are actually trying to win the next election. The best way to regain popularity would be to have a Labour government.

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dreamwaverider London 27 Jul 23 1.07pm
Originally posted by Nicholas91 Outside of all other exchanges on here, historical existence on this platform etc. and very much in acknowledgement I'm putting myself in the firing line here, I do agree with Wisbech on this as a stand alone point. I think the connotations of the position Farage hold in socio-political life and everything connected to it is more the point however as far as he is concerned I put him in the same bracket as Sad Dick. Weasel of a man with nothing other than his own interests at heart. It's disappointing that he represents anything and therefore can become central to any political discussion as I see it as a shocking condemnation of the political health of the country. I couldn't give a f**k about him and his bank accounts quite frankly. I'd like to catch him in London with Khan so I can throw them both around like ragdolls and feel I should be legally entitled to do so That would be political justice in my eyes. I honestly don't even think he cared about Brexit, was just a big ticket vehicle for his ego. N91, I have no issues with your views of NF, or indeed Wisbech’s. However, although my post is petty, this thread is about Coutts v Farage. In other words the shortcomings of the bank and everything they represent in this instance v Farage. I haven’t read one post including from you two esteemed posters that defends the bank’s senior officials behaviour. So please don’t get sidetracked by your views of Farage and therefore diluting the issue of the bank and everything it stands for. Keep giving them a volley of both barrels for the many things wrong that they clearly represent. Edited by dreamwaverider (27 Jul 2023 1.09pm)
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Originally posted by Nicholas91

Outside of all other exchanges on here, historical existence on this platform etc. and very much in acknowledgement I'm putting myself in the firing line here, I do agree with Wisbech on this as a stand alone point.

I think the connotations of the position Farage hold in socio-political life and everything connected to it is more the point however as far as he is concerned I put him in the same bracket as Sad Dick. Weasel of a man with nothing other than his own interests at heart. It's disappointing that he represents anything and therefore can become central to any political discussion as I see it as a shocking condemnation of the political health of the country.

I couldn't give a f**k about him and his bank accounts quite frankly. I'd like to catch him in London with Khan so I can throw them both around like ragdolls and feel I should be legally entitled to do so That would be political justice in my eyes. I honestly don't even think he cared about Brexit, was just a big ticket vehicle for his ego.

N91, I have no issues with your views of NF, or indeed Wisbech’s.
However, although my post is petty, this thread is about Coutts v Farage.
In other words the shortcomings of the bank and everything they represent in this instance v Farage.
I haven’t read one post including from you two esteemed posters that defends the bank’s senior officials behaviour.
So please don’t get sidetracked by your views of Farage and therefore diluting the issue of the bank and everything it stands for. Keep giving them a volley of both barrels for the many things wrong that they clearly represent.

Edited by dreamwaverider (27 Jul 2023 1.09pm)

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Stirlingsays 27 Jul 23 1.49pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger You have to wonder if the Tories are actually trying to win the next election. The best way to regain popularity would be to have a Labour government. Once the SNP voted in just about the worst leader and Starmer started doing his rather awkward Tony Blair impressions a probable Labour victory looked nailed on. But, a week is a long time in politics....as true as when it was first said. Whoever is elected though will probably be terrible.....also something that continues to be a truism. Managed decline. Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Jul 2023 1.50pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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27 Jul 23 1.49pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You have to wonder if the Tories are actually trying to win the next election. The best way to regain popularity would be to have a Labour government.

Once the SNP voted in just about the worst leader and Starmer started doing his rather awkward Tony Blair impressions a probable Labour victory looked nailed on.

But, a week is a long time in politics....as true as when it was first said.

Whoever is elected though will probably be terrible.....also something that continues to be a truism.

Managed decline.

Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Jul 2023 1.50pm)

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cryrst The garden of England 27 Jul 23 2.08pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle If I faced the same issue, which is unlikely as I have neither the money nor the public persona, I would deal with this privately. People in the public eye rightly demand their private lives remain private. They therefore have a duty to keep them private and not exploit them when it suits them. Prince Harry gets roasted for hypocrisy for such things. Farage is doing this only to gain political advantage and leverage. He had every right to ask the bank for an explanation but he went full on public making ridiculous claims about thousands of others. If he had not done so maybe the bank’s CEO would not have felt the need to give her interview to the BBC. His bank account has not been withdrawn because of his politics. That’s Farage spin. It’s been withdrawn because they have assessed a reputational risk. The irony in your last two words are funny. Their reputation has gone down by a billion quid. It seems the masses agree with his stance. If you don’t fair enough but trying to convince the masses that you are right isn’t working. Cancel culture over your politics as an mp said this morning on TV doesn’t just happen with banking.
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The garden of England 27 Jul 23 2.08pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

If I faced the same issue, which is unlikely as I have neither the money nor the public persona, I would deal with this privately. People in the public eye rightly demand their private lives remain private. They therefore have a duty to keep them private and not exploit them when it suits them. Prince Harry gets roasted for hypocrisy for such things.

His bank account has not been withdrawn because of his politics. That’s Farage spin. It’s been withdrawn because they have assessed a reputational risk.

The irony in your last two words are funny. Their reputation has gone down by a billion quid. It seems the masses agree with his stance. If you don’t fair enough but trying to convince the masses that you are right isn’t working. Cancel culture over your politics as an mp said this morning on TV doesn’t just happen with banking.

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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 27 Jul 23 2.24pm
Originally posted by dreamwaverider N91, I have no issues with your views of NF, or indeed Wisbech’s. However, although my post is petty, this thread is about Coutts v Farage. In other words the shortcomings of the bank and everything they represent in this instance v Farage. I haven’t read one post including from you two esteemed posters that defends the bank’s senior officials behaviour. So please don’t get sidetracked by your views of Farage and therefore diluting the issue of the bank and everything it stands for. Keep giving them a volley of both barrels for the many things wrong that they clearly represent. Edited by dreamwaverider (27 Jul 2023 1.09pm) That's fair enough DWR but I was only popping in, and I do actually agree with the views expressed by some on here regarding the actions of the banks themselves and the senior officials. So whilst I have no respect nor like for Farage whatsoever, that does and can live alongside the quite obvious criticisms of the processes followed, although I am not exactly an expert (not that others are) and hence my reluctance to comment with any assertion or even at all. I just like to get things off my chest sometimes albeit to the detriment of the usership Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!
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The Democratic Republic of Kent 27 Jul 23 2.24pm

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

Edited by dreamwaverider (27 Jul 2023 1.09pm)

That's fair enough DWR but I was only popping in, and I do actually agree with the views expressed by some on here regarding the actions of the banks themselves and the senior officials.

So whilst I have no respect nor like for Farage whatsoever, that does and can live alongside the quite obvious criticisms of the processes followed, although I am not exactly an expert (not that others are) and hence my reluctance to comment with any assertion or even at all.

I just like to get things off my chest sometimes albeit to the detriment of the usership

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 27 Jul 23 3.25pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger This only went his way because he exposed it. Are you keeping up? It has been established, even admitted by the head of Nat West that it was because of his political opinions. You know, the woman with purple hair. Dead give away really. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (27 Jul 2023 12.21pm) Provide evidence that this is true. Not that it is what has been asserted by Farage, or newspapers, but actual evidence. I think it's impossible to be true. Banks don't have opinions. They took the action they did because his reputation was considered to have the potential to damage theirs. That his political opinions affect his reputation is obviously true but was not, and couldn't be, the direct cause. No doubt you regard that as merely semantics but it isn't. It's a very important difference that hardly anyone seems capable of grasping. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 27 Jul 23 3.25pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

This only went his way because he exposed it. Are you keeping up?

It has been established, even admitted by the head of Nat West that it was because of his political opinions.

You know, the woman with purple hair. Dead give away really.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (27 Jul 2023 12.21pm)

Provide evidence that this is true. Not that it is what has been asserted by Farage, or newspapers, but actual evidence.

I think it's impossible to be true. Banks don't have opinions. They took the action they did because his reputation was considered to have the potential to damage theirs. That his political opinions affect his reputation is obviously true but was not, and couldn't be, the direct cause.

No doubt you regard that as merely semantics but it isn't. It's a very important difference that hardly anyone seems capable of grasping.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 27 Jul 23 3.27pm
Another one bites the dust . . . [Link] This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.
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On The Road To Hell & Alicante 27 Jul 23 3.27pm

Another one bites the dust . . . [Link]

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

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Badger11 Beckenham 27 Jul 23 3.34pm
Originally posted by eagleman13 Another one bites the dust . . . [Link] He should have been the first to go however I think it is time to draw a line under this. One more point
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Beckenham 27 Jul 23 3.34pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

Another one bites the dust . . . [Link]

He should have been the first to go however I think it is time to draw a line under this.

One more point

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 27 Jul 23 3.34pm
Originally posted by cryrst The irony in your last two words are funny. Their reputation has gone down by a billion quid. It seems the masses agree with his stance. If you don’t fair enough but trying to convince the masses that you are right isn’t working. Cancel culture over your politics as an mp said this morning on TV doesn’t just happen with banking. Throughout this thread the damage that the bank has caused to themselves has been acknowledged. It is though separate to the arguments I am making about Farage. He wants to connect them, as he exploits their failures, but don't be fooled by him. He is exploiting this as much as he can. The losses suffered by the bank are their responsibility but have nothing to do with any support from the masses. It's the judgement of the financial markets on the likely impact to their bottom line that has caused that. Why should people not be "cancelled" because of their politics? No one should be forced to invite anyone to speak at an event that they run. No one has the right to speak freely wherever they want. Only to be able to speak freely. It's a free country. We can choose, or ignore, whoever we want to. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 27 Jul 23 3.34pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Throughout this thread the damage that the bank has caused to themselves has been acknowledged. It is though separate to the arguments I am making about Farage. He wants to connect them, as he exploits their failures, but don't be fooled by him. He is exploiting this as much as he can.

The losses suffered by the bank are their responsibility but have nothing to do with any support from the masses. It's the judgement of the financial markets on the likely impact to their bottom line that has caused that.

Why should people not be "cancelled" because of their politics? No one should be forced to invite anyone to speak at an event that they run. No one has the right to speak freely wherever they want. Only to be able to speak freely. It's a free country. We can choose, or ignore, whoever we want to.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 27 Jul 23 3.55pm
Imagine your CV saying under 'Previous Employment' - reason for leaving: Nigel Farage. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 27 Jul 23 3.55pm

Imagine your CV saying under 'Previous Employment' - reason for leaving: Nigel Farage.

Red and Blue Army!

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