Perhaps you should convert to Islam, it might just add some moral fiber to your lifestyle.

Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

Perhaps Wisbech and Maine can send their apologies to him on behalf of us all.

Thats a bit like Alan Pardew complaining when people criticize his defensive setup.

Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

What makes me smile is that you think or expect that you can make a majority of Muslims support your type of society over radicals within their own who attacks yours.

The reality is that you can't.....Now it's an important point that this doesn't mean that they all or even a majority support radicals. However, it's rather a group dynamic reality that they recognise the 'them and us' that is the base reality of multiculturalism.....secularists like to think of it as 'mistrust' and blame themselves but they are sugar coating it deluding themselves.

Once you allow multiculturalism you create separate identities which if different enough will have friction regardless....this was known many moons ago yet is continually ignored out of wish fulfillment.

It's a similar reality to the death of PC Blakelock decades ago. Many within the black community would have known who were involved but no one willingly came forward at the time.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

What makes me smile is that you don't recognise that they already do support "our kind of society". The majority of British Muslims are peace-loving Brits, just like the rest of us. In my youth most of us were Christians. I attended Church, was a choirboy and server, just because it was expected of me. I am still a cultural Christian, taking pride in the heritage, but I no longer believe, if I ever really did. In a few short years, Christian belief has declined substantially. Atheism and humanism are now found everywhere, when in my youth they were no-where.

Who's to say the same won't happen, in time, with British Muslims? In fact the evidence that it IS happening is very clearly already there.

Incoming cultures get modified by their exposure to ours. Look at the way the East African Indians have adapted and prospered.

The same is happening with the various Muslim communities. It's not yet complete. Be patient. They will still value their cultural traditions, just as I do mine, but as they become more and more British their connection to our culture will be stronger. For many, it already is.

There has always been the kind of noise we read on here about recently arrived immigrants. I have heard it many times before. These days, though, the availability of social media changes the dynamic and amplifies it. A small number can make a lot of noise. As they do here. We just need to close our ears to those who shout and listen to the quiet voices of hope.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

That is the stand-out phrase for me Black community. A phrase such as , 'Jewish community', 'Asian community', 'community leaders' that are used by mainstream media and politicians all the time.
Reinforcing the fact that our society is not integrated, but has factions living side-by-side with all its positive and negative effects.

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (23 Oct 2021 9.24am)

I disengage, I turn the page.