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BlueJay Flag UK 26 Jan 21 10.00am

Originally posted by Spiderman

Apparently on 12/1 Dubai arrivals have to self-isolate, seems to be changing all the time. Maybe your dentist got back before then. Still think it was irresponsible for a medical professional to travel abroad at the present time

Yes, it's crackers, no wonder nobody knows where they stand or what's going on. I just found it part disturbing, part darkly funny that I've been spending months being ultra careful on account that I live with a vulnerable person, to then have to go to the dentist (no choice really), and end up being treated by someone who's effectively plugging me into the consequences of their Dubai flight and week long family holiday. Thankfully I was fine but it was a worry for a time. He really was talking about it without a care in the world.


 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 26 Jan 21 10.13am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

Yes, it's crackers, no wonder nobody knows where they stand or what's going on. I just found it part disturbing, part darkly funny that I've been spending months being ultra careful on account that I live with a vulnerable person, to then have to go to the dentist (no choice really), and end up being treated by someone who's effectively plugging me into the consequences of their Dubai flight and week long family holiday. Thankfully I was fine but it was a worry for a time. He really was talking about it without a care in the world.


What is even more crazy is apparently certain healthcare professionals do not have to self isolate after travelling abroad even if it was a holiday. I will get my wife to try to confirm this next time she is at work

 

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Teddy Eagle Flag 26 Jan 21 10.19am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

[Link]

According to their site passengers need a clean Covid test result to travel there and isolation is only required if another test is required on arrival and then until a negative result is received.

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 26 Jan 21 10.29am

Originally posted by becky

Since the Pfizer vaccine second dose doesn't become effective until 7-10 days AFTER it's given, then presumably that 0.01% would have been those still developing antibodies, which would give mild symptoms, therefore cannot be a true indication of effectiveness, as the time lag is too short by the given standards.

Edited by becky (26 Jan 2021 7.12am)

Valid point! I did translate it from an Israeli site but it does seem to say the same here [Link]

I had considered that some of this might be due to the first dose, but at the same time there are multiple mentions of 7 days post second vaccination being the study end point or point of protection [Link] [Link] [Link] , so it might that 7-10 is the time of maximum effectiveness rather than when the second dose starts to kick in, and that it is responsible for these figures..

Either way, very good news!

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 26 Jan 21 10.36am

Originally posted by Spiderman

What is even more crazy is apparently certain healthcare professionals do not have to self isolate after travelling abroad even if it was a holiday. I will get my wife to try to confirm this next time she is at work

Yes I would be interested to know that. They deal with so many patients that it definitely stands out and something that shouldn't be happening at this time.

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 26 Jan 21 11.25am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

[Link]

According to their site passengers need a clean Covid test result to travel there and isolation is only required if another test is required on arrival and then until a negative result is received.

But we have our own entry requirements as well

 

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Teddy Eagle Flag 26 Jan 21 11.32am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

But we have our own entry requirements as well

Yes we do. I was just interested in Dubai as a friends daughter went there last week to work and didn’t have to isolate when she got there.

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 26 Jan 21 11.32am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

Yes I would be interested to know that. They deal with so many patients that it definitely stands out and something that shouldn't be happening at this time.

I have just found this. Seems he may have twisted this to suit his requirements, not sure it was meant to cover holidays. Will let you know if can find out more

[Link]


Edited by Spiderman (26 Jan 2021 11.33am)

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 26 Jan 21 1.35pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

I have just found this. Seems he may have twisted this to suit his requirements, not sure it was meant to cover holidays. Will let you know if can find out more

[Link]


Edited by Spiderman (26 Jan 2021 11.33am)

Thanks! Yes, the whole thing was a surprise to me. The breezing in and out of countries and also doing so while in a very public facing medical role.

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 27 Jan 21 8.40am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Great cartoon

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One more point

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Mapletree Flag Croydon 27 Jan 21 10.22am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by becky

Since the Pfizer vaccine second dose doesn't become effective until 7-10 days AFTER it's given, then presumably that 0.01% would have been those still developing antibodies, which would give mild symptoms, therefore cannot be a true indication of effectiveness, as the time lag is too short by the given standards.

Edited by becky (26 Jan 2021 7.12am)

Second dose

The first dose largely provides full immunity, the second dose gives longevity

The vaccine does not cause positive antigen tests by the way

 

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Teddy Eagle Flag 27 Jan 21 11.20am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Second dose

The first dose largely provides full immunity, the second dose gives longevity

The vaccine does not cause positive antigen tests by the way

That’s interesting. According to the Omni calculator 16 year-olds (as young as it goes) should receive the first jab by 25 April. Suppose it depends on what percentage needs to be done for it to be considered herd immunity has been achieved; estimates vary but 70/75% seems to be about average.

 

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