So what is the natural behavior of the sexes? Is it that men are the aggressors and women are the prey? So thus it shall always be this, and only this, for interaction between the sexes?

You call yourself socially libertarian, and yet you want to box everyone in to your preferred stereotypes. I actually don't care how adults choose to interact with each other consensually, as long as they do not stray across the line of legally and/or socially appropriate standards of behavior.

This is the nuance that, given multiple untaken opportunities in this thread, you will never understand.

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

I did miss off Fox News, whose founder - Roger Ailes, and main star - Bill O'Reilly - were let go from the station after their positions became untenable after the station had to pay out tens of millions in compensation for multiple harassment and discrimination lawsuits. It was actually so bad there that shareholders sued Fox for its complete mishandling of these cases, and won a 90 million dollar settlement from Fox.

Meanwhile, Trump has finally today responded to - instead of pretending not to hear - questions about Roy Moore:

Trump: "I can tell you one thing for sure. We don't need a liberal person in there, a Democrat. Jones."

Reporter: "Is an accused child molester better than a Democrat?"

Trump: "Well, he denies it. Look, he denies it. I mean, if you look at what is really going on. You look at all the things that have happened over the last 48 hours, he totally denies it. He says it didn't happen. And you know, you have to listen to him also."

One man vs. nine accusers, plus multiple contemporaneous corroborations of the accusers, plus further details such as his banning from a mall for bothering the schoolgirls there, a former police officer used to have to keep Moore away from the cheerleaders at high school football games and the bizarre, self-admitted anecdote that his wife first caught his eye at a high school dance recital. Sure, those are totally equal...

I'm not sure what's more creepy here: the fact that a childless man was hanging around a high school dance recital, or that he first noticed - in that way - the girl he would later marry when she was 15 or 16 years old (people went back and checked the records).

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

Exactly. Creepy as f***.

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

Wow, I am humbled to be in the presence of such purity and moral certainty.

I don't think its moral certainty and purity, to have not sexually harassed or assaulted someone. That's an ethical baseline of reasonable behaviour.

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No one knows, with any real certainty - Those who claim they do, are in denial. Human behaviour is incredibly complicated and diverse, and isn't really tied into a simplistic biological environmental model.

The human animal in its natural form, really only manifests I think, when you remove civilisation from the equation. Like most animals our environment defines the most part of our personality and identity, rather than having a isolated self, distinct from the world around us.

Human instinct isn't particually definable in a way that is seen even with higher mammals, because the human capacity for learning is monumentally excessive compared even to our closest biological relatives (The human brain has an abnormal level of mirror neurons).

We can point to certain instincts (Flight or Fight, grooming, non-verbal communication) and mid-brain impulses (hunger, arousal etc) but these midbrain functions are subordinate to high brain direction (the human brain kind of works with the lower brain being subordinate to the mid brain and the mid brain to the neo-cortex. - As such movement begins with the lower brain, is directed by the mid brain and then the higher brain functions add co-ordination, evaluation and fine motor skills).

Because of the huge number of mirror neurons, humans are very much social and environmental creatures, more so than any other species - we're also born with far less specialist brain function. The kind of predictable and pattern behaviour seen even in socialised cats, dogs or chimps isn't remotely similar to human behaviour.

We're a paradox of nature, as we define it. We are animals, but we're incredibly complex because we have very developed high brain functions, rather than reliant on specialist mid brain functionality and limited cortex interaction (seen in other mammals).

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