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 TheExpatEagle  07 Sep 17 10.13am |
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Originally posted by steven_t92
If the Americans were to be bought out by a less passive business man, who would then control a larger share than Parish, would he want Parish to keep the control over the club that he currently has? No I wouldn't think so, the constant change of management since he took over is ridiculous. We haven't made one good appointment that has been successful and long term. Our only two good appointments have left after half a season (Sam and Pulis). The rest have all been sacked..... I like him as a business man for saving out club and making sure money is invested in the right places but football wise he doesn't know what he is doing. It sounds like anyone who can put together a good enough portfolio gets the job. Edited by steven_t92 (07 Sep 2017 9.58am) Good points. I guess SP would argue that appointing Freedman is his answer to having someone in place to take care of football matters and leave him to the business side. Trouble is, Freedman is pretty inexperienced himself and just sends out the wrong signals.
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Rudi Hedman  Caterham 07 Sep 17 10.30am |
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Originally posted by TheExpatEagle
No, of course not but it can't have helped. I mean, he might have carried on if he could rebuild the team or at least rebuild half the team. Say it was 50-50, having the prospect of a season with only 2 new players when we lost a lot more than that probably tipped the balance. It's the old saying 'the straw that broke the camel's back'. We all know something minor like a straw can't break a camel's back but it can be the pivotal factor. So not 'because of lack of funds' then. Maybe a contributory factor. You're not as sure as you were hours ago then.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 07 Sep 17 10.36am |
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Originally posted by TheExpatEagle
Over all I like Parish but I think he is now holding us back. Do we strive forward, dare to dream or do we hold back and play it 'safe'? It's not about daring to dream but smoothing out a lot of the bad mistakes, scouting players in advance to save ourselves enough to get close to 2 players per position, lowering the wage bill and not having to sign big transfer players to cover up the mistakes. Frank said all the right things to achieve this but then set about trying to change us from playing to our strengths to something too many of the players are not. I'm talking about the 3/5 at the back and for the 1st 2 home games playing the ball about which we can't do without our full strength team available. Then I think we could.
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| susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 07 Sep 17 11.58am |
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Originally posted by TheExpatEagle
Good points. I guess SP would argue that appointing Freedman is his answer to having someone in place to take care of football matters and leave him to the business side. Trouble is, Freedman is pretty inexperienced himself and just sends out the wrong signals. Wrong signals??? Can you explain what you mean by that comment please ?????
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| Nobbybm Dartford 07 Sep 17 12.36pm |
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Originally posted by TheExpatEagle
Who did I insult and how? The interview I am referring to was on 18th July and is quoted in newspapers on 19th July. Fact: He says he made his decision before the Hull game. "Privately, I knew I was going to leave the club before the Hull game. I had made the decision privately. I had talked it over with my wife, and I have to listen to her because she wanted me to pack it in a long time ago." Fact: Parish said in a radio interview that they had agreed "1 maybe 2" transfers in the summer. Would Allardyce have had those discussions if he had already made his decision? So it must have taken place before the Hull game thus influencing his decision. "Palace owner Steve Parish had no idea and wouldn't find out until after the final day at Manchester United." Make of it what you will. I am not asking you to agree with my views on what happened but don't expect me to agree with yours. Well having now found the interview & then found the transcript on Talksport I think there's a small but quite important difference:
And, speaking to Jim White on talkSPORT, the 62-year-old manager admitted his mind was made up before their final game of the season. “Privately yes I knew beforehand,” Allardyce explained. “I had made my decision and I had talked it over with my wife because, obviously, I have to listen to my wife because she wanted me to pack in a long time ago.
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Den1923  07 Sep 17 2.30pm |
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Originally posted by TheExpatEagle
Over all I like Parish but I think he is now holding us back. Do we strive forward, dare to dream or do we hold back and play it 'safe'? The only dream we have at the moment is championship football next term with reduced income for the future, surely it a lot to ask that we win some home games!
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 07 Sep 17 2.36pm |
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'Dare to dream.' Sounds like that wet blanket called Lird Percy on Blackadder 2. (Lots of people say it. Blackadder always called Percy a berk)
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| TheExpatEagle 07 Sep 17 3.55pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
So not 'because of lack of funds' then. Maybe a contributory factor. You're not as sure as you were hours ago then. I am sure the lack of being able to ring in players was the deciding factor. Had he been able to I think he would have felt he could have had a less stressful time as manager this season. It's the domino effect which would put him under stress which would cause friction at home and so on. Money/players was the issue. I don't know if you saw The Debate on Sky 2 nights ago when Allardyce was on there but he said Parish asked him if he wanted Sakho an hour or so before the window closed and he was instrumental in organising the defensive training.
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| TheExpatEagle 07 Sep 17 3.56pm |
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Originally posted by susmik
Wrong signals??? Can you explain what you mean by that comment please ????? Yes I can but no I won't. I'll just be repeating what a lot of people are saying about how Freedman's appointment is just wrong.
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| TheExpatEagle 07 Sep 17 3.57pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
It's not about daring to dream but smoothing out a lot of the bad mistakes, scouting players in advance to save ourselves enough to get close to 2 players per position, lowering the wage bill and not having to sign big transfer players to cover up the mistakes. Frank said all the right things to achieve this but then set about trying to change us from playing to our strengths to something too many of the players are not. I'm talking about the 3/5 at the back and for the 1st 2 home games playing the ball about which we can't do without our full strength team available. Then I think we could. Out of interest do you think it was a case of FdB agreeing with Parish to get the job or him actually saying what Parish wanted to hear that convinced Parish to give him the job?
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| TheExpatEagle 07 Sep 17 4.03pm |
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Originally posted by Nobbybm
However, just days after safety was secured, Allardyce announced his intention to leave the club and head into possible retirement. And, speaking to Jim White on talkSPORT, the 62-year-old manager admitted his mind was made up before their final game of the season. “Privately yes I knew beforehand,” Allardyce explained. “I had made my decision and I had talked it over with my wife because, obviously, I have to listen to my wife because she wanted me to pack in a long time ago. Funny, the link you posted wasn't a transcript. The quote I found was: "But, Allardyce, speaking to talkSPORT presenter Jim White this morning, has revealed he made the decision before the game with Hull that he would step down from his post. "Palace owner Steve Parish had no idea and wouldn't find out until after the final day at Manchester United." If you watch Sky Allardyce was on The Debate this week and made a brief mention of it too. I watched it this morning. How long are we going to go on about this for? You believe your truth and I'll believe mine. I can sleep at night.
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| TheExpatEagle 07 Sep 17 4.05pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
'Dare to dream.' Sounds like that wet blanket called Lird Percy on Blackadder 2. (Lots of people say it. Blackadder always called Percy a berk) I was being somewhat ironic when I wrote that because I've been accused of being a dreamer, arrogant and so on for saying I expected us to beat teams like WBA and Bournemouth at home last season. Apparently I am a dreamer for thinking we should beat such teams.
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