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leggedstruggle  Croydon 29 Jul 15 12.58pm |
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Still waiting for Torvill & Dean's immigration policy. Still waiting for you to post something not laughably trite. Hansel and Gretel's inability to offer their immigration policy illustrates well my original point: the Left would have no controls whatsoever on immigration and are more than happy to see the consequences visited on the existing UK working class.
Barbie and Ken have opinions and 'policies' on absolutely everything - apart from immigration it seems. Evidence that Labour governments have been soft on immigration is not convincing. It was Labour who brought in the 1968 Commonwealth Immigrants Act and, more recently was responsible for introducing civil penalties for those employing illegal migrants, extended the powers of immigration officers to arrest and created harder laws on facilitation of illegal migrants. The reality is that both Labour and the Tories have acted pretty consistently on the issue when actually in office and confronted with the practicalities. The Left as represented by Napoleon and Snowball would repeal all the measures you mention and have absolutely no controls over immigration whatsoever. And your evidence for this utter bollocks is? Well Nap, your lack of response in describing your immigration policy for a start. You have the debating skills of a mollusc. For that reason, I'm out. Happy to debate your immigration policy, but you don't seem to have one.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 29 Jul 15 1.06pm |
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Quote leggedstruggle at 29 Jul 2015 12.58pm
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Still waiting for Torvill & Dean's immigration policy. Still waiting for you to post something not laughably trite. Hansel and Gretel's inability to offer their immigration policy illustrates well my original point: the Left would have no controls whatsoever on immigration and are more than happy to see the consequences visited on the existing UK working class.
Barbie and Ken have opinions and 'policies' on absolutely everything - apart from immigration it seems. Evidence that Labour governments have been soft on immigration is not convincing. It was Labour who brought in the 1968 Commonwealth Immigrants Act and, more recently was responsible for introducing civil penalties for those employing illegal migrants, extended the powers of immigration officers to arrest and created harder laws on facilitation of illegal migrants. The reality is that both Labour and the Tories have acted pretty consistently on the issue when actually in office and confronted with the practicalities. The Left as represented by Napoleon and Snowball would repeal all the measures you mention and have absolutely no controls over immigration whatsoever. And your evidence for this utter bollocks is? Well Nap, your lack of response in describing your immigration policy for a start. You have the debating skills of a mollusc. For that reason, I'm out. Happy to debate your immigration policy, but you don't seem to have one. But not happy to back up your clichéd assertions about the 'left" with facts.
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 radsyrendot From Coventry now in Leicester 29 Jul 15 1.12pm |
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3 or 4 SAS snipers either side of the border .....sorted
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| johnfirewall 29 Jul 15 1.13pm |
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You have the debating skills of a mollusc. For that reason, I'm out. Happy to debate your immigration policy, but you don't seem to have one. The left are realising you can't look after everyone 18 years too late.
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| susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 29 Jul 15 1.36pm |
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let them into the tunnel, then run a eurostar through at full speed, that will stop them!
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| elgrande bedford 29 Jul 15 1.48pm |
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As someone posted earlier on this thread. The French should fingerprint every single one of them. They are not stupid.
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| Catfish Burgess Hill 29 Jul 15 2.00pm |
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Quote leggedstruggle at 29 Jul 2015 12.40pm
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Quote leggedstruggle at 29 Jul 2015 11.01am
Still waiting for Torvill & Dean's immigration policy. Still waiting for you to post something not laughably trite. Hansel and Gretel's inability to offer their immigration policy illustrates well my original point: the Left would have no controls whatsoever on immigration and are more than happy to see the consequences visited on the existing UK working class.
Barbie and Ken have opinions and 'policies' on absolutely everything - apart from immigration it seems. Evidence that Labour governments have been soft on immigration is not convincing. It was Labour who brought in the 1968 Commonwealth Immigrants Act and, more recently was responsible for introducing civil penalties for those employing illegal migrants, extended the powers of immigration officers to arrest and created harder laws on facilitation of illegal migrants. The reality is that both Labour and the Tories have acted pretty consistently on the issue when actually in office and confronted with the practicalities. The Left as represented by Napoleon and Snowball would repeal all the measures you mention and have absolutely no controls over immigration whatsoever.
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| leggedstruggle Croydon 29 Jul 15 2.07pm |
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Still waiting for Torvill & Dean's immigration policy. Still waiting for you to post something not laughably trite. Hansel and Gretel's inability to offer their immigration policy illustrates well my original point: the Left would have no controls whatsoever on immigration and are more than happy to see the consequences visited on the existing UK working class.
Barbie and Ken have opinions and 'policies' on absolutely everything - apart from immigration it seems. Evidence that Labour governments have been soft on immigration is not convincing. It was Labour who brought in the 1968 Commonwealth Immigrants Act and, more recently was responsible for introducing civil penalties for those employing illegal migrants, extended the powers of immigration officers to arrest and created harder laws on facilitation of illegal migrants. The reality is that both Labour and the Tories have acted pretty consistently on the issue when actually in office and confronted with the practicalities. The Left as represented by Napoleon and Snowball would repeal all the measures you mention and have absolutely no controls over immigration whatsoever.
Ask the millions of ordinary UK working class voters who deserted them, or ask the immigrant communities who did vote for them, or the middle-class left who make up their core support and couldn't care less about the indigenous working class.
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| beagle pom tiddly om pom pom 29 Jul 15 2.12pm |
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Watching some of the extraordinary footage of people opening up the backs of lorries while on the move, isn't the answer...a padlock?
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| Stirlingsays 29 Jul 15 2.13pm |
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Quote leggedstruggle at 29 Jul 2015 2.07pm
Ask the millions of ordinary UK working class voters who deserted them, or ask the immigrant communities who did vote for them, or the middle-class left who make up their core support and couldn't care less about the indigenous working class.
The reduced access to housing, services and jobs plus infrastructure.....That did for them with a significant amount of previously Labour voters....Especially in the north. In reality, in England the left aren't going to get back in with 'freedom of movement' as it is and a successful UK economy. All the liberals and student voters signing up to Corbyn's Labour ultimately aren't going to amount to a hill of beans. Still.....It will increase the moaning and polarisation back to 80s levels. We might even get a remake of 'The Young Ones'. Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Jul 2015 2.14pm)
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| Stuk Top half 29 Jul 15 2.36pm |
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Quote beagle at 29 Jul 2015 2.12pm
Watching some of the extraordinary footage of people opening up the backs of lorries while on the move, isn't the answer...a padlock? They just cut them off. What they need is padlocks with a few thousand volts running though them!
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| fed up eagle Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 29 Jul 15 2.54pm |
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Quote Stuk at 28 Jul 2015 6.16pm
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Quote npn at 27 Jul 2015 1.25pm
Simple solution: EU wide asylum policy. Regardless of where you enter the EU, you go into a pot and are allocated to whichever country is next in line (so if you apply in England or in Germany, your application is processed in the same way and if successful you are allocated to individual countries of the EU based on rules). Nope, ye caused the problem, ye can take them. It's not fair on other countries.
Sadly, we have to pay all that money back. However, the countries that didn't cause it should not have to pay for it. If you let one in, it's an incentive for others, as we know the people in Calais are not Syrians, they are economic migrants. Edited by corkery (27 Jul 2015 10.46pm)
They're the entry points after all, not France or the UK. The solution should be just to turn the boats back.
Edited by Stuk (28 Jul 2015 6.18pm)
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