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 Teddy Eagle  15 Mar 20 11.24pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It just wasn't "that simple" though was it? There were many strands which, when knitted together, meant we ended up with the kind of deal we got and an 80 majority Tory government of the type we have. This really isn't though the time to get into another long argument over Brexit. As I hinted in my earlier post I suspect that the negotiations will have to be put on the back burner whilst we all deal with this crisis. It will certainly prove to all, I hope anyway, that acting together delivers better results than trying to stand alone. Maybe that lesson will soften the British approach whenever they resume because we are going to see a very changed world at the end of all this. Indeed. Free movement within the EU certainly won’t be as easy.
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cryrst  The garden of England 16 Mar 20 4.23am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It just wasn't "that simple" though was it? There were many strands which, when knitted together, meant we ended up with the kind of deal we got and an 80 majority Tory government of the type we have. This really isn't though the time to get into another long argument over Brexit. As I hinted in my earlier post I suspect that the negotiations will have to be put on the back burner whilst we all deal with this crisis. It will certainly prove to all, I hope anyway, that acting together delivers better results than trying to stand alone. Maybe that lesson will soften the British approach whenever they resume because we are going to see a very changed world at the end of all this. "The type of tory government we have"
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Spiderman  Horsham 16 Mar 20 6.47am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Indeed. Free movement within the EU certainly won’t be as easy. Yep. I refer to my 7pm post on Coronavirus thread. They appear to be able to close their borders when it suits
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| Badger11 Beckenham 16 Mar 20 7.40am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It just wasn't "that simple" though was it? There were many strands which, when knitted together, meant we ended up with the kind of deal we got and an 80 majority Tory government of the type we have. This really isn't though the time to get into another long argument over Brexit. As I hinted in my earlier post I suspect that the negotiations will have to be put on the back burner whilst we all deal with this crisis. It will certainly prove to all, I hope anyway, that acting together delivers better results than trying to stand alone. Maybe that lesson will soften the British approach whenever they resume because we are going to see a very changed world at the end of all this. Or maybe it will let the EU off the hook. I suspect that the national leaders now realise that we are not going to back down so they need an excuse to tell the EU negotiating team to be more flexible. I think this is the perfect excuse for that. Edited by Badger11 (16 Mar 2020 7.41am)
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| ex hibitionist Hastings 16 Mar 20 9.03am |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Yep. I refer to my 7pm post on Coronavirus thread. They appear to be able to close their borders when it suits bloody hypocrites, so they can close their borders after all, tssk, you have earned the right to revel in the satisfaction of being right, well done, enjoy
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Mar 20 11.52am |
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Originally posted by cryrst
"The type of tory government we have" Do you think all Tory governments are exactly the same then? I don't. I have voted for many who I believed pursued sensible policies based on sound financial prudence matched with social responsibility. Not this one.
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| cryrst The garden of England 16 Mar 20 11.58am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Do you think all Tory governments are exactly the same then? I don't. I have voted for many who I believed pursued sensible policies based on sound financial prudence matched with social responsibility. Not this one. Not at all I dont no.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Mar 20 6.31pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Not at all I dont no. Every sensible government rewards enterprise and not laziness. Some though also protect the poorest, the disadvantaged and the vulnerable from circumstances that are genuinely beyond their control. Others just say they do.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Mar 20 6.39pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Yep. I refer to my 7pm post on Coronavirus thread. They appear to be able to close their borders when it suits It must be a bit of a shock to all the Eurosceptics, who constantly complained that Brussels had taken control over everything, to see that national governments actually retain total control and can, and do, act when the need arises.
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| Teddy Eagle 16 Mar 20 6.47pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It must be a bit of a shock to all the Eurosceptics, who constantly complained that Brussels had taken control over everything, to see that national governments actually retain total control and can, and do, act when the need arises. So we were ahead of the curve.
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| Spiderman Horsham 16 Mar 20 6.53pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It must be a bit of a shock to all the Eurosceptics, who constantly complained that Brussels had taken control over everything, to see that national governments actually retain total control and can, and do, act when the need arises. The only shock is that Merkel has suddenly realised that you can close borders, having let the world and his wife in over the last few years. Are you really suggesting that any of the Schengen signatories could have closed their borders at any time, without Brussels approval? Total b***cks
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| Spiderman Horsham 16 Mar 20 6.54pm |
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Originally posted by ex hibitionist
bloody hypocrites, so they can close their borders after all, tssk, you have earned the right to revel in the satisfaction of being right, well done, enjoy I thank you
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