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cryrst The garden of England 14 Mar 20 2.57pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle With the current crisis dominating our thoughts, and the headlines, it is totally understandable that the subject that did last year, Brexit, is now very much running at the back of the field. Whether the need to concentrate on the crisis, both at home and in the EU, means that the timelines will be forced to be extended remains an open question but it would not surprise me. Events change plans. Or at least if you are wise they do. This was published by the BBC yesterday and it again raises two questions. Firstly, when will the Intelligence and Security Committee report on interference be published, and secondly, if Johnson had not suppressed it last year would we still have had a Tory government with such a large majority? [Link] Wow You started with sincerity and ended with a loaded question. I suppose at least the austerity taken over the last few years has left boris with some cash to deal with this current issue. If your mate JC was in he would already of spent it on the bulls*** in his story book.
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The garden of England 14 Mar 20 2.57pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

With the current crisis dominating our thoughts, and the headlines, it is totally understandable that the subject that did last year, Brexit, is now very much running at the back of the field.

Whether the need to concentrate on the crisis, both at home and in the EU, means that the timelines will be forced to be extended remains an open question but it would not surprise me. Events change plans. Or at least if you are wise they do.

This was published by the BBC yesterday and it again raises two questions. Firstly, when will the Intelligence and Security Committee report on interference be published, and secondly, if Johnson had not suppressed it last year would we still have had a Tory government with such a large majority?

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Wow
You started with sincerity and ended with a loaded question.
I suppose at least the austerity taken over the last few years has left boris with some cash to deal with this current issue.
If your mate JC was in he would already of spent it on the bulls*** in his story book.

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Midlands Eagle 14 Mar 20 3.52pm
Originally posted by cryrst Wow You started with sincerity and ended with a loaded question. I suppose at least the austerity taken over the last few years has left boris with some cash to deal with this current issue. If your mate JC was in he would already of spent it on the bulls* in his story book**. Whilst I am no fan of some of WE's posts he has made it quite plain that he is no supporter of either Corbyn or the Labour Party
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Originally posted by cryrst

Wow
You started with sincerity and ended with a loaded question.
I suppose at least the austerity taken over the last few years has left boris with some cash to deal with this current issue.
If your mate JC was in he would already of spent it on the bulls*** in his story book.

Whilst I am no fan of some of WE's posts he has made it quite plain that he is no supporter of either Corbyn or the Labour Party

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cryrst The garden of England 14 Mar 20 5.15pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle Whilst I am no fan of some of WE's posts he has made it quite plain that he is no supporter of either Corbyn or the Labour Party Or boris and the tories Or Farage and brexit Or the lib dems Or the greens If he nailed his colours to the mast at least his allegiance would be known. He posts like a lefty most of the time so what does he expect people to think.
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The garden of England 14 Mar 20 5.15pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Whilst I am no fan of some of WE's posts he has made it quite plain that he is no supporter of either Corbyn or the Labour Party

Or boris and the tories
Or Farage and brexit
Or the lib dems
Or the greens
If he nailed his colours to the mast at least his allegiance would be known.
He posts like a lefty most of the time so what does he expect people to think.

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 14 Mar 20 6.19pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle Whilst I am no fan of some of WE's posts he has made it quite plain that he is no supporter of either Corbyn or the Labour Party I thought Cryst was referring to Jesus Christ and the Bible,.. If your mate JC was in he would already of spent it on the bulls* in his story book** Edited by Forest Hillbilly (14 Mar 2020 6.21pm) I disengage, I turn the page.
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Whilst I am no fan of some of WE's posts he has made it quite plain that he is no supporter of either Corbyn or the Labour Party

I thought Cryst was referring to Jesus Christ and the Bible,..

If your mate JC was in he would already of spent it on the bulls*** in his story book

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (14 Mar 2020 6.21pm)

I disengage, I turn the page.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 14 Mar 20 8.50pm
Originally posted by cryrst Or boris and the tories Or Farage and brexit Or the lib dems Or the greens If he nailed his colours to the mast at least his allegiance would be known. He posts like a lefty most of the time so what does he expect people to think. My only "allegiance" is the truth as I perceive it. I don't give blanket support to any political party, whatever their current approach might be. As one poster does here. I have always regarded myself as a social democrat of the type found on the progressive wing of the Tory party. People like Ken Clarke and Michael Heseltine are my model politicians. I thought Tony Blair a pragmatist who took the Labour party the right way. I dislike politics that tend toward the extremes. I prefer a consensus view with only minor changes of direction so we can make steady progress. I dislike populism and the trend towards giving the people what they want rather than what a government believes they need. I have stated this approach many times so I hope it is clear enough for you now. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 14 Mar 20 8.50pm

Originally posted by cryrst

My only "allegiance" is the truth as I perceive it. I don't give blanket support to any political party, whatever their current approach might be. As one poster does here.

I have always regarded myself as a social democrat of the type found on the progressive wing of the Tory party. People like Ken Clarke and Michael Heseltine are my model politicians. I thought Tony Blair a pragmatist who took the Labour party the right way.

I dislike politics that tend toward the extremes. I prefer a consensus view with only minor changes of direction so we can make steady progress. I dislike populism and the trend towards giving the people what they want rather than what a government believes they need.

I have stated this approach many times so I hope it is clear enough for you now.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Hrolf The Ganger 15 Mar 20 10.03am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle My only "allegiance" is the truth as I perceive it. I don't give blanket support to any political party, whatever their current approach might be. As one poster does here. I have always regarded myself as a social democrat of the type found on the progressive wing of the Tory party. People like Ken Clarke and Michael Heseltine are my model politicians. I thought Tony Blair a pragmatist who took the Labour party the right way. I dislike politics that tend toward the extremes. I prefer a consensus view with only minor changes of direction so we can make steady progress. I dislike populism and the trend towards giving the people what they want rather than what a government believes they need. I have stated this approach many times so I hope it is clear enough for you now. I, I, I, me, me, me. Yawn.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

My only "allegiance" is the truth as I perceive it. I don't give blanket support to any political party, whatever their current approach might be. As one poster does here.

I have stated this approach many times so I hope it is clear enough for you now.

I, I, I, me, me, me.

Yawn.

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Stirlingsays 15 Mar 20 10.35am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger I, I, I, me, me, me. Yawn. Yep, it's funny how those that consider themselves moderate have supported policies that have had such an extreme affect upon our society....yet it's the traditionalists that they want to call extremists and far right. They have lit the match and now pretend that everything is nice and cozy. Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Mar 2020 10.55am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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15 Mar 20 10.35am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I, I, I, me, me, me.

Yawn.

Yep, it's funny how those that consider themselves moderate have supported policies that have had such an extreme affect upon our society....yet it's the traditionalists that they want to call extremists and far right.

They have lit the match and now pretend that everything is nice and cozy.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Mar 2020 10.55am)

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 15 Mar 20 11.27am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger I, I, I, me, me, me. Yawn. Simply, and only, because it was my attitude that was questioned. Yours, and others, can be found in countless other comments. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 15 Mar 20 11.27am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I, I, I, me, me, me.

Yawn.

Simply, and only, because it was my attitude that was questioned.

Yours, and others, can be found in countless other comments.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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cryrst The garden of England 15 Mar 20 2.05pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Simply, and only, because it was my attitude that was questioned. Yours, and others, can be found in countless other comments. No it wasn't at all Your political bias is evident but until labour gain power again you will not admit it. At least danh, serial and some others are honest about theirs. In the same way that hrolf Stirling and others do.
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The garden of England 15 Mar 20 2.05pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Simply, and only, because it was my attitude that was questioned.

Yours, and others, can be found in countless other comments.

No it wasn't at all
Your political bias is evident but until labour gain power again you will not admit it.
At least danh, serial and some others are honest about theirs.
In the same way that hrolf Stirling and others do.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 15 Mar 20 3.28pm
Originally posted by cryrst No it wasn't at all Your political bias is evident but until labour gain power again you will not admit it. At least danh, serial and some others are honest about theirs. In the same way that hrolf Stirling and others do. Your perception of my political bias is evident. And evidently wrong, as I have explained on numerous occasions. Late me state it in very straightforward words. I dislike left wing politics every much as I dislike right wing politics. Just because I am not a member of the right wing club that populates this place doesn't mean I am leftish in any way at all. I am a centrist. Most seem to understand that, even if they still disagree with it. In the very unlikely event that Labour ever returns to power under the kind of leadership and policies as characterised by Corbyn then you can be 100% sure they would be opposed by me just as strongly as I opposed the right wing cabal who forced Brexit over the line. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 15 Mar 20 3.28pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Your perception of my political bias is evident. And evidently wrong, as I have explained on numerous occasions.

Late me state it in very straightforward words. I dislike left wing politics every much as I dislike right wing politics. Just because I am not a member of the right wing club that populates this place doesn't mean I am leftish in any way at all. I am a centrist. Most seem to understand that, even if they still disagree with it.

In the very unlikely event that Labour ever returns to power under the kind of leadership and policies as characterised by Corbyn then you can be 100% sure they would be opposed by me just as strongly as I opposed the right wing cabal who forced Brexit over the line.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Phil’s Barber Crowborough 15 Mar 20 8.32pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle In the very unlikely event that Labour ever returns to power under the kind of leadership and policies as characterised by Corbyn then you can be 100% sure they would be opposed by me just as strongly as I opposed the right wing cabal who forced Brexit over the line. The Country voted for it...my god it is that simple! (Endorsed it with the European Elections and put 80 big fat juicy cherries on the top in Decembers General Election) For goodness sake just accept it, stop whining and get over it.
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Crowborough 15 Mar 20 8.32pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

In the very unlikely event that Labour ever returns to power under the kind of leadership and policies as characterised by Corbyn then you can be 100% sure they would be opposed by me just as strongly as I opposed the right wing cabal who forced Brexit over the line.

The Country voted for it...my god it is that simple!

(Endorsed it with the European Elections and put 80 big fat juicy cherries on the top in Decembers General Election)

For goodness sake just accept it, stop whining and get over it.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 15 Mar 20 10.57pm
Originally posted by Phil’s Barber The Country voted for it...my god it is that simple! (Endorsed it with the European Elections and put 80 big fat juicy cherries on the top in Decembers General Election) For goodness sake just accept it, stop whining and get over it. It just wasn't "that simple" though was it? There were many strands which, when knitted together, meant we ended up with the kind of deal we got and an 80 majority Tory government of the type we have. This really isn't though the time to get into another long argument over Brexit. As I hinted in my earlier post I suspect that the negotiations will have to be put on the back burner whilst we all deal with this crisis. It will certainly prove to all, I hope anyway, that acting together delivers better results than trying to stand alone. Maybe that lesson will soften the British approach whenever they resume because we are going to see a very changed world at the end of all this. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 15 Mar 20 10.57pm

Originally posted by Phil’s Barber

The Country voted for it...my god it is that simple!

(Endorsed it with the European Elections and put 80 big fat juicy cherries on the top in Decembers General Election)

For goodness sake just accept it, stop whining and get over it.

It just wasn't "that simple" though was it? There were many strands which, when knitted together, meant we ended up with the kind of deal we got and an 80 majority Tory government of the type we have.

This really isn't though the time to get into another long argument over Brexit. As I hinted in my earlier post I suspect that the negotiations will have to be put on the back burner whilst we all deal with this crisis. It will certainly prove to all, I hope anyway, that acting together delivers better results than trying to stand alone. Maybe that lesson will soften the British approach whenever they resume because we are going to see a very changed world at the end of all this.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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