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 steeleye20  Croydon 20 Oct 22 4.09pm |
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Truss also served less time than Frank De Boeur did at a local football club.
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| Stirlingsays 20 Oct 22 4.11pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
I was actually, I felt crowning Gordon was quite wrong, he had to be elected at a GE, he fluffed the chance too, as Callaghan did, while well ahead in the polls. Truss is the latest non-elected incarnation and the shortest term I think on record. I think if that was your position with Brown then you have some legitimacy on this point now. The Truss episode is definitely a low point for the Tories....Ultimately, I blame Cameron....but I like to blame him for most things....the oven fuse blew earlier and I'd like to think the bastarrd PR man was responsible in some way.
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Nicholas91  The Democratic Republic of Kent 20 Oct 22 4.12pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Truss also served less time than Frank De Boeur did at a local football club. At least she didn't have to add a 'u' to her surname unnecessarily though.
Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!! |
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Forest Hillbilly  in a hidey-hole 20 Oct 22 4.14pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Boris has 7 MPs openly backing him. I don't think Boris wants the job of PM. He's done that, and is now doing financially very well out of associated media work. He's had his wedding party at Chequers, his wedding at the Catholic Cathedral and the stuff Carrie wanted. Edited by Forest Hillbilly (20 Oct 2022 4.27pm)
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| Spiderman Horsham 20 Oct 22 4.18pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
The old school tie brigade will get their man. Talk about alienating your membership and showing you don’t actually give a flying fig what your supporters want
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| steeleye20 Croydon 20 Oct 22 4.25pm |
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Flattering Johnson's ego as Napoleon returning from Elba suits the level of UK political craziness. And that's what it is.
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 SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 20 Oct 22 5.01pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
At least they had a vote....and it is their party and the choice of party is what elections are mainly about. Was you making this complaint about the selection of leaders when Gordon Brown became leader? No. I was less interested in politics then. But the same point stands then and now, if the membership voted in that instance. Also worked out terribly I think I'm just fedup with people bleating about democracy as a thing (not the nuances within it or trying to improve it), whining about elites etc. It's literally the best worst system. Or maybe it's equal to quasi dictatorships such as China, Russia etc. Either way, there's no credible alternatives. Humans basically aren't designed to operate in any other way. The same system can be improved, but it has its limits. I'm afraid it just has to be made to work in the best way possible and natural selection, circumstance and luck will determine how well you do out of it. By all means try to change as much as you can but understand it's literally part of our biology to work like this. It's ultimately a sliding scale – for periods it works better, others, worse. Accept your gifted control fallacy that enables us all to function and move on Edited by SW19 CPFC (20 Oct 2022 5.14pm)
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| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 20 Oct 22 5.05pm |
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| Stirlingsays 20 Oct 22 5.07pm |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
No. I was less interested in politics then You're honest, which is always laudable. I must admit, if we were starting from scratch on political systems there is probably a lot that would change. I'm mostly a bemused observer most of the time.
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| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 20 Oct 22 5.19pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
You're honest, which is always laudable. I must admit, if we were starting from scratch on political systems there is probably a lot that would change. I'm mostly a bemused observer most of the time. No doubt, but I'm yet to hear a good rationale as to why we would not simply end up in the same position, the same structures, hierarchies, 1% etc. etc. The system can change but the outcome will always end up more or less the same. As above there will be periods where it works better, and where it is worse, but it's impossible to change unless someone decides to reprogram the genome at some stage. Even so probably still ends up the same – Gattica etc. Human progress is and has always been built off the back of individual sacrifice. Can't see how that is ever going to change.
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| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 20 Oct 22 5.20pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Perhaps but you do realise that one of momentums best tricks was to get their supporters to monitor phone in programs and dial in with their agenda. LBC got wise to this and have tried to filter them out not because they were momentum but they were not being honest about who they were. I heard one caller and it started off "I am Joe ordinary Public I don't pay attention to politics but hey this Corbyn guy sounds good". He warmed to his subject but when challenged by the presenter on some point he forgot himself and demonstrated an amazing depth of knowledge about the minutiae of Labour Party internal rules. The presenter cut him off at this point. Anyway my point is I bet all parties do this to some extent so who knows who these people are or claim to be. I take all this stuff with a pinch of salt. Interesting. Obvious when you think about it. But I'd not thought about it.
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croydon proud  Any european country i fancy! 20 Oct 22 5.23pm |
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Here at CP news we like to bring you the breaking news first- we bought you her majestys sad passing, we bought you lizzy drippings impending departure- and the departure itself!
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We thank you for the generous support, and will be giving you the new pm scoop in the coming days, this will be at the usual e mail so you can make a few quid before word gets out! Obviously the 20% cut applies! We don"t break these stories for nothing. On that note, i"m stuck on Oct 2 page, bump me up please mods-the voice of reason will NOT be silenced!
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