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Spiderman Flag Horsham 30 Nov 20 8.25am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

What has that got to do with this thread?

Tbf you have brought the name Trump into several threads, including at least one on transfer talk!

 

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Teddy Eagle Flag 30 Nov 20 8.40am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Ouzo Dan

Employees at Orlando Disney, refer to the place as Mousewitz such is how poorly they treat their staff.

They were warned off from using that name and apparently started calling it Duckhau.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 30 Nov 20 10.54am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Weren't you complaining about posters acting as forum policeman?

Threads have natural variation.

Anyone who knows about Murdoch now understand that his son James involves himself far more politically than his father does...due to age and James is less socially conservative and more of a pragmatist.

I think the idea that Murdoch controls Disney politically almost amusing....it's pretty simple, just look at who sits on their board of directors.

As for Fox:

(pasted from Wikipedia)
'A Morning Consult survey the week after Election Day 2020 showed 30 percent of Republicans in the United States had an unfavorable opinion of Fox News, while 54 percent of Republicans viewed the network favorably, compared to 67 percent before the election. A McClatchy news story suggested criticism from Donald Trump as a major reason, as well as the network's early calling of Arizona for Joe Biden, and later joining other networks in declaring Biden the winner of the 2020 election.'

Fox is being slowly positioned towards the Republican centre.

I think they have made a poor call on the direction of the party post Trump but they and we shall find out.

Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Nov 2020 4.50am)

I have no interest in, or intention to even offer a comment about, the subjects to be discussed. All that was done here was to point out factually incorrect claims that weren't spotted by others but built upon by them.

Discussing the way that Fox appears to be distancing itself from Trump seems a perfectly valid area for discussion to me.

Making false claims about it's ownership and then attributing the motivation for that distancing to that falsehood does not seem valid.

Seeking to deliberately confuse or conflate the two isn't valid either.

It seems to me that you remain confused over this:-

"I think the idea that Murdoch controls Disney politically almost amusing."

Where do you get that idea from? Murdoch is not involved with Disney. He sold part of his business to them in a restructuring but retained Fox News, in which Disney has no interest on involvement at all.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 30 Nov 20 11.01am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Tbf you have brought the name Trump into several threads, including at least one on transfer talk!

Not really a genuine comparison is it?

This was a factually incorrect statement.

Me expressing opinions about Trump and his impact on many aspects of our lives is merely just that. Opinions. You not liking those opinions is fine. Facts are not involved.

 


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Spiderman Flag Horsham 30 Nov 20 11.40am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Not really a genuine comparison is it?

This was a factually incorrect statement.

Me expressing opinions about Trump and his impact on many aspects of our lives is merely just that. Opinions. You not liking those opinions is fine. Facts are not involved.

Nothing to do with your opinions. You criticised the poster for bringing up a topic, you did not feel was relevant to this thread. I just pointed out that you have done similar, unless you know of any reason Trump is relevant to our transfer thread

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 30 Nov 20 12.28pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I have no interest in, or intention to even offer a comment about, the subjects to be discussed. All that was done here was to point out factually incorrect claims that weren't spotted by others but built upon by them.

Discussing the way that Fox appears to be distancing itself from Trump seems a perfectly valid area for discussion to me.

Making false claims about it's ownership and then attributing the motivation for that distancing to that falsehood does not seem valid.

Seeking to deliberately confuse or conflate the two isn't valid either.

It seems to me that you remain confused over this:-

"I think the idea that Murdoch controls Disney politically almost amusing."

Where do you get that idea from? Murdoch is not involved with Disney. He sold part of his business to them in a restructuring but retained Fox News, in which Disney has no interest on involvement at all.

I'm not confused about anything.

It seems to me that you wish to misrepresent the statements of others and then claim that you are correcting them.

Just like you waffled over your hypocrisy on forum policing this is just a daily activity for you.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 30 Nov 20 12.57pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Nothing to do with your opinions. You criticised the poster for bringing up a topic, you did not feel was relevant to this thread. I just pointed out that you have done similar, unless you know of any reason Trump is relevant to our transfer thread

I suggest you read it again.

The topic existed. I started it!

The thing that was criticised was the incorrect assertion that Fox is now owned by Disney, which was picked up and continued by others. After I had pointed that mistake out the references to Disney continued. That wasn't just bringing up a new topic which has zilch connection to the US election! It was continuing to push a connection that doesn't exist and which had been pointed out.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 30 Nov 20 1.06pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I'm not confused about anything.

It seems to me that you wish to misrepresent the statements of others and then claim that you are correcting them.

Just like you waffled over your hypocrisy on forum policing this is just a daily activity for you.

Which bit of this quote do you deny making?

"Media becomes the mouthpiece of whoever owns it and Fox started dying in terms of conservatism the day Disney took over."

Or am I misrepresenting it?

To repeat, Disney does not own Fox News. Murdoch has retained it. Any changes to it's treatment of Trump, or indeed it's attitudes to "conservatism", are not therefore as a consequence of any change of ownership, to Disney or anyone else.

 


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Spiderman Flag Horsham 30 Nov 20 1.08pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I suggest you read it again.

The topic existed. I started it!

The thing that was criticised was the incorrect assertion that Fox is now owned by Disney, which was picked up and continued by others. After I had pointed that mistake out the references to Disney continued. That wasn't just bringing up a new topic which has zilch connection to the US election! It was continuing to push a connection that doesn't exist and which had been pointed out.

There was a couple of posts criticising Disney, you responded by “ what has this got to do with the thread ?”

So I asked what relevance Trump has to any of our transfer threads? You mentioned him in them so presumably you have an answer

 

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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 30 Nov 20 1.09pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Which bit of this quote do you deny making?

"Media becomes the mouthpiece of whoever owns it and Fox started dying in terms of conservatism the day Disney took over."

Or am I misrepresenting it?

To repeat, Disney does not own Fox News. Murdoch has retained it. Any changes to it's treatment of Trump, or indeed it's attitudes to "conservatism", are not therefore as a consequence of any change of ownership, to Disney or anyone else.


Serious question, do you enjoy spending all day arguing with people online?

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 30 Nov 20 1.20pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Which bit of this quote do you deny making?

"Media becomes the mouthpiece of whoever owns it and Fox started dying in terms of conservatism the day Disney took over."

Or am I misrepresenting it?

To repeat, Disney does not own Fox News. Murdoch has retained it. Any changes to it's treatment of Trump, or indeed it's attitudes to "conservatism", are not therefore as a consequence of any change of ownership, to Disney or anyone else.

No, in this aspect you aren't wrong.

However, as a general observation of your modus operandi I'd say I'm pretty accurate.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 30 Nov 20 1.20pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle


Serious question, do you enjoy spending all day arguing with people online?

No, because I don't. I do loads of other things. I am about to go shopping and will be walking the dog on a beach where he will doubtless swim first. I may cast a line for 30 mins too, just to see if there are any bass around.

I am just able to type very quickly.

 


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