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nickgusset  Shizzlehurst 28 May 17 2.14pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
No reduction in immigration. No tackling of terrorism.....Which mainly affects the easy targets. Management of immigration are the words. We need to train up Brits before we can reduce immigration figures. If we reduce immigration and leave a skills shortage, it won't do us any good. No tackling of terrorism? Do go on.
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 Stirlingsays 28 May 17 2.18pm |
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Originally posted by Big Guy
Such as? Go on. Mention the IRA. (Who talked their way to peace and now form part of NI govt) Next ...yawn... So revealing that you find that boring. Corbyn has nothing but appeasement to offer the British people in tackling a continuing and increasing Islamic terror problem. He can't even bring himself to call it what it is. The Tories are half way to pathetic but the far left are much worse.
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 Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 28 May 17 2.19pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
The best education systems in the world don't work like that. You are just repeating ideology. What ideology? It's common sense. Picking off the brightest of each generation and educating them to the highest possible standard is one of the best investments in its future the state can make. Just look at the piss-awful standards of literacy and numeracy all around you, standards which have fallen dramatically since comprehensive education came into being. Edited by Cucking Funt (28 May 2017 2.20pm)
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| Stirlingsays 28 May 17 2.23pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Management of immigration are the words. We need to train up Brits before we can reduce immigration figures. If we reduce immigration and leave a skills shortage, it won't do us any good. No tackling of terrorism? Do go on. Utter nonsense. With no reduction in immigration British children from working class backgrounds will just find competition for jobs harder and harder. I've seen this in teaching and with respect I think it's a disservice not to recognise it. The only skills shortage is the skills shortage that has been deliberately caused to create the space for a cheaper workforce from aboard. Labour are the party that actually caused the problem in the first place in the nineties. Labour would do feck all about prioritizing British workers to do jobs first..It's a sop to the easily fooled..It goes against their egalitarian and internationalist beliefs. Edited by Stirlingsays (28 May 2017 2.45pm)
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 28 May 17 2.38pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Can you point to one thing in the Labour Manifesto that betrays the working class? The priorities of the current Labour party that has been hijacked by the extreme left are: Edited by hedgehog50 (28 May 2017 2.40pm)
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| Stirlingsays 28 May 17 2.42pm |
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For some reason Cucking the site forbids me replying directly to your post...so I'll post it here. You think cementing in elitism works best overall for the state?.....The numbers are too small...It isn't a good system. Finland does best in international comparisons and is comprehensive. Standards have fallen 'since' comprehensives where invented? What is this an argument for secondary moderns? Taking the best out of the system and then pointing at the system and saying, 'it's sh1t' seems devoid of culpability to me. As I say, Finland tops the table and it is comprehensive.....You are repeating ideology.
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| Stirlingsays 28 May 17 2.44pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
The priorities of the current Labour party that has been hijacked by the extreme left are: Edited by hedgehog50 (28 May 2017 2.40pm) Seconded....Labour has long since abandoned the British working class. It's an internationalist party.
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| Big Guy 28 May 17 2.56pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
So revealing that you find that boring. Corbyn has nothing but appeasement to offer the British people in tackling a continuing and increasing Islamic terror problem. He can't even bring himself to call it what it is. The Tories are half way to pathetic but the far left are much worse. What are you offering? More bombing? That's worked well hasn't it
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 Hrolf The Ganger 28 May 17 3.26pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Can you point to one thing in the Labour Manifesto that betrays the working class? Manifestos don't mean anything. They are a tissue of lies and hollow promises.
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| Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 28 May 17 3.30pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
For some reason Cucking the site forbids me replying directly to your post...so I'll post it here. You think cementing in elitism works best overall for the state?.....The numbers are too small...It isn't a good system. Finland does best in international comparisons and is comprehensive. Standards have fallen 'since' comprehensives where invented? What is this an argument for secondary moderns? Taking the best out of the system and then pointing at the system and saying, 'it's sh1t' seems devoid of culpability to me. As I say, Finland tops the table and it is comprehensive.....You are repeating ideology. The grammar system is available to anyone, regardless of background. If identifying the smartest and brightest is "elitism", then I'm all for it. The old system of grammars and secondary moderns seemed to work pretty well until the social engineers got hold of it. Edited by Cucking Funt (28 May 2017 3.31pm)
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| Hrolf The Ganger 28 May 17 3.34pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Na mate, it's biased towards those who have the resources to ensure their kids get into it. That's what the history of them shows. That is simply not true. Taking myself as an example. I spent not one penny on my kids education beyond a set of practice GCSE exam papers. My daughter went to a grammar and is about to graduate by her own efforts.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 28 May 17 3.44pm |
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Originally posted by Big Guy
Such as? Go on. Mention the IRA. (Who talked their way to peace and now form part of NI govt) Next ...yawn... They murdered innocent people to try and subvert democracy and were forced to negotiate because their organisation was totally infiltrated by informants. Dickheads like Corbyn want to negotiate with murderers because he is weak, not because he is strong.
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