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DANGERCLOSE Flag London 21 Feb 20 3.32pm Send a Private Message to DANGERCLOSE Add DANGERCLOSE as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Might not but your lot will always be remembered as anti democratic traitors, guess you will just have to live with that.


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Midlands Eagle Flag 21 Feb 20 3.40pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

If you find facts boring then sobeit. That's your own responsibility. As I said before I only repeat them when others claim something else. This is not a matter of opinion. It's a matter of fact.

it is a fact that we have a representative democracy. The inescapable consequence of that fact is that our representatives are not, and cannot be, delegates. The inescapable consequence of that being that they must rely on their own judgements and not anyone else's.

Do you believe that if you spout shyte enough times that people will believe you?

Your usage of the word "inescapable" is bollox as neither of your examples are at all inescapable as indicated by the Government's grant of a referendum and promise to abide by the result

 

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the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 21 Feb 20 3.44pm Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

There was heaps of compromise being suggested. Most were content to accept a "soft" Brexit in which close alignment was maintained. Many wanted the options to be put back to the people so they could express how they felt with the benefit of 3 year's worth of hindsight.

Now it seems we are back into "no deal" territory and the the views of the moderates are being completely ignored again.


Oh dear, here we go again! Sore 'loser' continues to moan...

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 21 Feb 20 4.06pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Do you believe that if you spout shyte enough times that people will believe you?

Your usage of the word "inescapable" is bollox as neither of your examples are at all inescapable as indicated by the Government's grant of a referendum and promise to abide by the result

The referendum could not have been held unless Parliament had agreed to it. It wasn't "granted" by the government at all. They just proposed it. Parliament's involvement was indeed inescapable.

You don't have to believe me. You just need to check the facts.

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Neither could they have accurately have "promised" to abide by the result. That they did so was misleading at best and fake at worse. It always depended on Parliament. Note the word "consultative" in the linked piece.

So I regret to tell you that the "bollox" and the "shyte" are all yours.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 21 Feb 20 4.08pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by the silurian


Oh dear, here we go again! Sore 'loser' continues to moan...

No moans at all. Just answering a previous comment.

Why on earth do you think I am a "loser". Brexit will make little difference to me.

It's the country as a whole, and my children and grandchildren who are the losers.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards robdave2k Flag 21 Feb 20 4.22pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

As the EU unelected officials don't make decisions it follows that everything else you claim is wrong. That what you claim is widely believed propaganda is very unfortunate but that's not my fault.

The officials apply the decisions made by the EU Council and the laws passed by the MEPs in the EU Parliament.

Of course all leavers are not knuckle dragging members of Britain First! However I think the overwhelming majority of the members of Britain First voted to leave the EU.

Well done for completely sweeping and missing the context of the point being made.

Still anything to get you up on your soapbox eh.

Essentially for all your “waxing lyrical”,- you’re a bigot. Everything you accuse everyone else of, you’re guilty of yourself.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 21 Feb 20 4.22pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

So much moaning....it's like an old women whose lost her last vibrator batteries.

 


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dannyboy1978 Flag 21 Feb 20 4.44pm Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Only by those who don't really understand how British democracy actually functions. Such people aren't a new phenomenon in UK politics.

Which is why the point needs to be endlessly repeated to ensure it isn't trampled on by the jack boots of the right.

I don't need to understand the ins and outs of democracy to the finest detail, I'm just a pleb like your self. Us plebs listen to the professional politicians like the priminister who tells the country it's a once in a life time dicision. We then take that word as true like a person of law in court, or any other professional offering a contact.
The damage would have been far reaching if we had not left and our democracy would have been hugely damaged more so than huge down turn you remoaners promised the day the leave vote came in.


Edited by dannyboy1978 (21 Feb 2020 4.45pm)

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 21 Feb 20 6.28pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No moans at all. Just answering a previous comment.

Why on earth do you think I am a "loser". Brexit will make little difference to me.

It's the country as a whole, and my children and grandchildren who are the losers.

They could be winners.
The future is exactly that.
Unpredictable and unknown.
If you have been irresponsible enough to convince them that the future will be bad because of brexit then you are a poor role model.
If you fit the above then I would go and tell them that you have spoken out of turn and wish the best for them and let them do research on their own.
I feel it may be that in the WE household any positives about brexit may be shouted down by the matriarch.
Just my guess which incidentally is what you are doing.

 

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the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 21 Feb 20 6.36pm Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No moans at all. Just answering a previous comment.

Why on earth do you think I am a "loser". Brexit will make little difference to me.

It's the country as a whole, and my children and grandchildren who are the losers.

You backed Remain, as you never tire of telling us, over and over again......Remain LOST ergo YOU ARE A LOSER....

You know for sure that the country and your children will be losers? Your opinion only....what makes you right and all the others wrong.....you and your type will winge and whine, hopeing that your dreams come true, if they dont we will never hear from you again....sore loser!!

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 21 Feb 20 6.58pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

The Commission is unelected and introduces law and policy - not all of which requires EU parliament consent. It also negotiates trade deals independently of the EU Council and Parliament. So it does, in some cases, make decisions without a democratic mandate to do so.

It cannot make law. That is a fallacy. It can negotiate trade deals but it does so only because the authority to do so has been delegated to it by the Council, who remain the ultimate authority.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 21 Feb 20 7.03pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by robdave2k

Well done for completely sweeping and missing the context of the point being made.

Still anything to get you up on your soapbox eh.

Essentially for all your “waxing lyrical”,- you’re a bigot. Everything you accuse everyone else of, you’re guilty of yourself.

If your context was that many who voted leave did so on the basis of a fundamental misunderstanding about how the EU functions then I did miss it. Having re-read it that's the only conclusion to be reached.

I have never been accused of being a bigot before! That's a first. Makes me feel quite at home here.

 


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