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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 17 Feb 20 5.34pm
Originally posted by Badger11 This happened during the previous negotiations. Remainers were quick to point the finger at Farage's comments when he wasn't part of the government whilst ignoring some pretty disgraceful comments from EU officials and government politicians. And then of course the EU summit where Mrs May was publicly ignored. Quite childish really of course both sides will disagree but there is no need to start the insults. Edited by Badger11 (17 Feb 2020 12.57pm) France's posturing is all about its domestic politics. Everyone pissed off with higher prices - particularly at petrol pump and home heating etc. Macron is a dead duck but if he can deflect onto making it Britain's fault, some of the French might not burn quite as many cars or break as many shop windows. A bit like the Falklands situation really, except that the military junta was a far better government than teacher's pet Macron's. If the French electoral system was in anyway representative, Le Penn would be in power and this would already all be academic. Expect more vote rigging, media bias and gerrymandering at the next French elections. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 17 Feb 20 5.34pm

Originally posted by Badger11

This happened during the previous negotiations. Remainers were quick to point the finger at Farage's comments when he wasn't part of the government whilst ignoring some pretty disgraceful comments from EU officials and government politicians. And then of course the EU summit where Mrs May was publicly ignored.

Quite childish really of course both sides will disagree but there is no need to start the insults.

Edited by Badger11 (17 Feb 2020 12.57pm)

France's posturing is all about its domestic politics. Everyone pissed off with higher prices - particularly at petrol pump and home heating etc. Macron is a dead duck but if he can deflect onto making it Britain's fault, some of the French might not burn quite as many cars or break as many shop windows.
A bit like the Falklands situation really, except that the military junta was a far better government than teacher's pet Macron's.
If the French electoral system was in anyway representative, Le Penn would be in power and this would already all be academic. Expect more vote rigging, media bias and gerrymandering at the next French elections.

Red and Blue Army!

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dannyboy1978 18 Feb 20 7.30am
Blaming the land of honey and internal wealth? "It said the fall in profits was mainly due to its investment and commercial banking operations in Europe." BBC News - HSBC signals mass job cuts as profits plunge [Link]
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18 Feb 20 7.30am

Blaming the land of honey and internal wealth?

"It said the fall in profits was mainly due to its investment and commercial banking operations in Europe."

BBC News - HSBC signals mass job cuts as profits plunge
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Badger11 Beckenham 18 Feb 20 8.03am
Originally posted by dannyboy1978 Blaming the land of honey and internal wealth? "It said the fall in profits was mainly due to its investment and commercial banking operations in Europe." BBC News - HSBC signals mass job cuts as profits plunge [Link] AT least HSBC is doing something about it. There are a lot of European banks (Spanish, Italian and even German) who like Mr Micawber are hoping something will turn up. They are still in hock due to the 2008 crash. In this country despite the politicians protests the banks have been closing branches and reducing staff over many years and this rate will only increase. Most of us rarely go into the local bank although that is bad luck for the elderly. Like many other sectors banks no longer need the vast number of employees as mobile banking has increased massively whilst cash has decreased. The Europeans have still not woken up to the aftermath of the 2008 crash and the increase in electronic transactions they still have thousands of branches. From the BBC today especially for all those who still think we should have open borders for cheap unskilled labour. [Link] One more point
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Beckenham 18 Feb 20 8.03am

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Blaming the land of honey and internal wealth?

"It said the fall in profits was mainly due to its investment and commercial banking operations in Europe."

BBC News - HSBC signals mass job cuts as profits plunge
[Link]

AT least HSBC is doing something about it. There are a lot of European banks (Spanish, Italian and even German) who like Mr Micawber are hoping something will turn up. They are still in hock due to the 2008 crash.

In this country despite the politicians protests the banks have been closing branches and reducing staff over many years and this rate will only increase.

Most of us rarely go into the local bank although that is bad luck for the elderly. Like many other sectors banks no longer need the vast number of employees as mobile banking has increased massively whilst cash has decreased.

The Europeans have still not woken up to the aftermath of the 2008 crash and the increase in electronic transactions they still have thousands of branches.

From the BBC today especially for all those who still think we should have open borders for cheap unskilled labour.

[Link]

One more point

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.TUX. 18 Feb 20 8.17am
Originally posted by dannyboy1978 Blaming the land of honey and internal wealth? "It said the fall in profits was mainly due to its investment and commercial banking operations in Europe." BBC News - HSBC signals mass job cuts as profits plunge [Link] More to do with Hong Kong than Europe. Possibly worth a read.... [Link] Definitely worth a watch... [Link] Edited by .TUX. (18 Feb 2020 8.41am) Buy Litecoin.
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18 Feb 20 8.17am

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Blaming the land of honey and internal wealth?

"It said the fall in profits was mainly due to its investment and commercial banking operations in Europe."

BBC News - HSBC signals mass job cuts as profits plunge
[Link]

More to do with Hong Kong than Europe.

Possibly worth a read....
[Link]

Definitely worth a watch...

[Link]

Edited by .TUX. (18 Feb 2020 8.41am)

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.TUX. 18 Feb 20 8.26am
Originally posted by Badger11 AT least HSBC is doing something about it. There are a lot of European banks (Spanish, Italian and even German) who like Mr Micawber are hoping something will turn up. They are still in hock due to the 2008 crash. In this country despite the politicians protests the banks have been closing branches and reducing staff over many years and this rate will only increase. Most of us rarely go into the local bank although that is bad luck for the elderly. Like many other sectors banks no longer need the vast number of employees as mobile banking has increased massively whilst cash has decreased. The Europeans have still not woken up to the aftermath of the 2008 crash and the increase in electronic transactions they still have thousands of branches. From the BBC today especially for all those who still think we should have open borders for cheap unskilled labour. [Link] 1. They're just another over-exposed s*** bank so no, they're doing nothing about it. 2. A deliberate move by the financial sector to hold your money, ie to keep your money within the system whether you like it or not. They have control. 3. Caused by a liquidity problem, a problem that has never truly gone away so there is no ''aftermath'', we're still in it. Buy Litecoin.
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18 Feb 20 8.26am

Originally posted by Badger11

AT least HSBC is doing something about it. There are a lot of European banks (Spanish, Italian and even German) who like Mr Micawber are hoping something will turn up. They are still in hock due to the 2008 crash.

In this country despite the politicians protests the banks have been closing branches and reducing staff over many years and this rate will only increase.

The Europeans have still not woken up to the aftermath of the 2008 crash and the increase in electronic transactions they still have thousands of branches.

From the BBC today especially for all those who still think we should have open borders for cheap unskilled labour.

[Link]

1. They're just another over-exposed s*** bank so no, they're doing nothing about it.
2. A deliberate move by the financial sector to hold your money, ie to keep your money within the system whether you like it or not. They have control.
3. Caused by a liquidity problem, a problem that has never truly gone away so there is no ''aftermath'', we're still in it.

Buy Litecoin.

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Matov 18 Feb 20 10.46am
Originally posted by ASCPFC France's posturing is all about its domestic politics. Everyone pissed off with higher prices - particularly at petrol pump and home heating etc. Macron is a dead duck but if he can deflect onto making it Britain's fault, some of the French might not burn quite as many cars or break as many shop windows. A bit like the Falklands situation really, except that the military junta was a far better government than teacher's pet Macron's. If the French electoral system was in anyway representative, Le Penn would be in power and this would already all be academic. Expect more vote rigging, media bias and gerrymandering at the next French elections. There was an interesting speech last night by David Frost who is the PM's Europe Advisor. Made a strong case that the UK would not be interested in the 'level playing field' mantra being trotted out. But also, from having read the speech in its entirety (which I concede is rather sad of me) what struck me were the references to not only the French Revolution but also comments about the wider notion of other movements in European nations pushing back against the EU hegemony. Now I accept that this is perhaps a case of me reading far too much into it BUT I got a sense that essentially HMG were making a rather guarded threat. We want to a Canda style free-trade agreement and if we don't get it then we will essentially give a great deal of support and succor to other European liberation movements. And given what is going on in France on a week in, week out basis with the mass street protests and violent reaction from the cops, is not a threat to be taken lightly. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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18 Feb 20 10.46am

Originally posted by ASCPFC

There was an interesting speech last night by David Frost who is the PM's Europe Advisor. Made a strong case that the UK would not be interested in the 'level playing field' mantra being trotted out.

But also, from having read the speech in its entirety (which I concede is rather sad of me) what struck me were the references to not only the French Revolution but also comments about the wider notion of other movements in European nations pushing back against the EU hegemony.

Now I accept that this is perhaps a case of me reading far too much into it BUT I got a sense that essentially HMG were making a rather guarded threat.

We want to a Canda style free-trade agreement and if we don't get it then we will essentially give a great deal of support and succor to other European liberation movements.

And given what is going on in France on a week in, week out basis with the mass street protests and violent reaction from the cops, is not a threat to be taken lightly.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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cpfc_chap koh samui 18 Feb 20 4.19pm
Originally posted by Matov There was an interesting speech last night by David Frost who is the PM's Europe Advisor. Made a strong case that the UK would not be interested in the 'level playing field' mantra being trotted out. But also, from having read the speech in its entirety (which I concede is rather sad of me) what struck me were the references to not only the French Revolution but also comments about the wider notion of other movements in European nations pushing back against the EU hegemony. Now I accept that this is perhaps a case of me reading far too much into it BUT I got a sense that essentially HMG were making a rather guarded threat. We want to a Canda style free-trade agreement and if we don't get it then we will essentially give a great deal of support and succor to other European liberation movements. And given what is going on in France on a week in, week out basis with the mass street protests and violent reaction from the cops, is not a threat to be taken lightly. When's the next french general election? can see Macrons government getting replaced by le penns.That then would surely see the eu fold!!
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koh samui 18 Feb 20 4.19pm

Originally posted by Matov

There was an interesting speech last night by David Frost who is the PM's Europe Advisor. Made a strong case that the UK would not be interested in the 'level playing field' mantra being trotted out.

Now I accept that this is perhaps a case of me reading far too much into it BUT I got a sense that essentially HMG were making a rather guarded threat.

We want to a Canda style free-trade agreement and if we don't get it then we will essentially give a great deal of support and succor to other European liberation movements.

And given what is going on in France on a week in, week out basis with the mass street protests and violent reaction from the cops, is not a threat to be taken lightly.

When's the next french general election? can see Macrons government getting replaced by le penns.That then would surely see the eu fold!!

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W12 18 Feb 20 4.38pm
Originally posted by cpfc_chap When's the next french general election? can see Macrons government getting replaced by le penns.That then would surely see the eu fold!! 2022 if Macron lasts that long.
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W12 18 Feb 20 4.38pm

Originally posted by cpfc_chap

When's the next french general election? can see Macrons government getting replaced by le penns.That then would surely see the eu fold!!

2022 if Macron lasts that long.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 18 Feb 20 9.33pm
I came across the article below on CNN. I thought it provided a new perspective and one you wouldn't read in the Mail or Express. It may help to explain why for many the fight has to go on:- [Link] For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 18 Feb 20 9.33pm

I came across the article below on CNN. I thought it provided a new perspective and one you wouldn't read in the Mail or Express. It may help to explain why for many the fight has to go on:-

[Link]

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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cpfc_chap koh samui 18 Feb 20 10.04pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I came across the article below on CNN. I thought it provided a new perspective and one you wouldn't read in the Mail or Express. It may help to explain why for many the fight has to go on:- [Link] Somehow I think this is bulls***, unless of course the perpetrator gets arrested cctv on all buses so would be easy enough to find. However CNN is known to tell porkies.. [Link]
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koh samui 18 Feb 20 10.04pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I came across the article below on CNN. I thought it provided a new perspective and one you wouldn't read in the Mail or Express. It may help to explain why for many the fight has to go on:-

[Link]

Somehow I think this is bulls***, unless of course the perpetrator gets arrested cctv on all buses so would be easy enough to find. However CNN is known to tell porkies..

[Link]

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dannyboy1978 18 Feb 20 10.07pm
Just imagine if we actually listned to the remoaners. BBC News - Wages back above pre-economic crisis levels [Link]
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18 Feb 20 10.07pm

Just imagine if we actually listned to the remoaners.
BBC News - Wages back above pre-economic crisis levels
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 18 Feb 20 10.54pm
Originally posted by cpfc_chap Somehow I think this is bulls***, unless of course the perpetrator gets arrested cctv on all buses so would be easy enough to find. However CNN is known to tell porkies.. [Link] You believe RT above CNN? For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 18 Feb 20 10.54pm

Originally posted by cpfc_chap

Somehow I think this is bulls***, unless of course the perpetrator gets arrested cctv on all buses so would be easy enough to find. However CNN is known to tell porkies..

[Link]

You believe RT above CNN?

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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