No. David Owen is completely different. He is pro-Europe to his core and a committed believer in the EU. He though did not like specific developments, like the move to federalism, the idea of a European army and the treatment of Greece. His support for Leave was, I believe, intended to focus attention on these things and force a better offer from the EU prior to the vote. He didn’t really want to leave. He wanted us to either move the EU back to its original purpose or negotiate a different kind of membership for us. I don’t think he really thought Leave would win, was shocked that it did and then campaigned for a very soft deal.

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No putting Fauci or the WHO in the spotlight isn't just more shameless. political posturing.

If companies ignored their guidelines they were open to lawsuits, so what they stated was incredibly important and was defacto policy.
We saw this in how companies and corporations just adopted everything coming out of their mouths like gospel.

What we are seeing post hoc is a throwing off of responsibility when they knew exactly the power they had. They were putting guidelines out there that were not based upon science yet companies and corporations were liable to be sued if they didn't follow it.....It was madness.

No, this isn't good enough.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I suggest you read this and scan down to the section about his attitude to the EU if you don’t want to read all his history. I think you will find it is much closer to my analysis than yours:-

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He had his reasons for leaving.

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I was going on regular five mile walks during covid and I remember seeing people in masks outside or on their own in cars and I remember thinking that the world's gone nuts.

Ever since Diana died this country has been behaving like tarts.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Of course it was important for companies to follow the guidelines, however they were determined. Discipline was a key element in ensuring that people stayed calm and knew that something was being done. Reassurance was important and people being able to do something together to help fight the invisible threat to their lives ,vital.

So attacking Fauci now for doing part of his job then is indeed nothing but political posturing.

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