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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 27 May 17 6.25pm | |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Whatever foreign policy we have, whatever concessions to Islamic ideas we have still they would want to blow us up, still they would want to have an Islamic totalitarian regime here.
Muslims are after world domination and we have all seen the way things are going all over the world. They will do whatever they think will give them a bigger foothold and this following article is worth a read: [Link]
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Stirlingsays 27 May 17 6.40pm | |
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Anyone who even remotely thinks Corbyn's Labour has a chance of winning needs to join a search party for their other brain cell. I shouldn't mock I know....but I'm going to enjoy the day after the election on here.
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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 27 May 17 7.17pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Anyone who even remotely thinks Corbyn's Labour has a chance of winning needs to join a search party for their other brain cell. I shouldn't mock I know....but I'm going to enjoy the day after the election on here. I will rejoice at Labour's defeat but I certainly won't be jubilant over a Conservative victory. Politicians. C*nts, the lot of 'em.
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.TUX. 27 May 17 7.23pm | |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
I will rejoice at Labour's defeat but I certainly won't be jubilant over a Conservative victory. Politicians. C*nts, the lot of 'em. Is the right answer.
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serial thriller The Promised Land 27 May 17 7.51pm | |
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Originally posted by susmik
Muslims are after world domination and we have all seen the way things are going all over the world. They will do whatever they think will give them a bigger foothold and this following article is worth a read: [Link] Muslims may appear very sincere; in fact, they are sincere, when they lie for their own protection or in the cause of Islam Let's take one fact, remove it from its social and historical context, and use it to tar everyone in a religious or ethic group. Because this has never been done before, you know, historically, and ended tragically. Islam, 100 years ago, say, was not such a violent religion. The ottoman's were in decline, and the main centres of violence, in Iran or Singapore, tended to be in resistance to colonial rule. Today, hundreds of millions of Muslims live in relatively peaceful countries: Jordan, Singapore, Morrocco... Our current fireign policy towards muslim countries is economically orientated with little consideration for security or morality. We can support regimes like Saudi Arabia, Syria and Qatar where Sharia is/was practiced and women and minorities are persecuted, punish countries that make democratic decisions like iran, iraq or palestine, or are most popular policy, support regimes when its economically desiravle for us like Libya, Syria, Egypt etc etc then completely switch sides and bomb/arm insurgents when we feel like it. Look in to the history of any of these countries. Just wikipedia it. In almost every case you'll find the same thing. If democracy threatens the oil or industrial interests of the Western countries, it is overriden and despots are put in charge. This creates poverty, desperation, fundamentalism, terrorism. Even our security services have admitted it.
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hedgehog50 Croydon 27 May 17 7.57pm | |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
Muslims may appear very sincere; in fact, they are sincere, when they lie for their own protection or in the cause of Islam Let's take one fact, remove it from its social and historical context, and use it to tar everyone in a religious or ethic group. Because this has never been done before, you know, historically, and ended tragically. Islam, 100 years ago, say, was not such a violent religion. The ottoman's were in decline, and the main centres of violence, in Iran or Singapore, tended to be in resistance to colonial rule. Today, hundreds of millions of Muslims live in relatively peaceful countries: Jordan, Singapore, Morrocco... Our current fireign policy towards muslim countries is economically orientated with little consideration for security or morality. We can support regimes like Saudi Arabia, Syria and Qatar where Sharia is/was practiced and women and minorities are persecuted, punish countries that make democratic decisions like iran, iraq or palestine, or are most popular policy, support regimes when its economically desiravle for us like Libya, Syria, Egypt etc etc then completely switch sides and bomb/arm insurgents when we feel like it. Look in to the history of any of these countries. Just wikipedia it. In almost every case you'll find the same thing. If democracy threatens the oil or industrial interests of the Western countries, it is overriden and despots are put in charge. This creates poverty, desperation, fundamentalism, terrorism. Even our security services have admitted it. What democracy? 'democratic decisions like Iran' LOL Edited by hedgehog50 (27 May 2017 7.58pm)
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.TUX. 27 May 17 8.10pm | |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
Muslims may appear very sincere; in fact, they are sincere, when they lie for their own protection or in the cause of Islam Let's take one fact, remove it from its social and historical context, and use it to tar everyone in a religious or ethic group. Because this has never been done before, you know, historically, and ended tragically. Islam, 100 years ago, say, was not such a violent religion. The ottoman's were in decline, and the main centres of violence, in Iran or Singapore, tended to be in resistance to colonial rule. Today, hundreds of millions of Muslims live in relatively peaceful countries: Jordan, Singapore, Morrocco... Our current fireign policy towards muslim countries is economically orientated with little consideration for security or morality. We can support regimes like Saudi Arabia, Syria and Qatar where Sharia is/was practiced and women and minorities are persecuted, punish countries that make democratic decisions like iran, iraq or palestine, or are most popular policy, support regimes when its economically desiravle for us like Libya, Syria, Egypt etc etc then completely switch sides and bomb/arm insurgents when we feel like it. Look in to the history of any of these countries. Just wikipedia it. In almost every case you'll find the same thing. If democracy threatens the oil or industrial interests of the Western countries, it is overriden and despots are put in charge. This creates poverty, desperation, fundamentalism, terrorism. Even our security services have admitted it. As we all know, China has nicked (to the benefit of many western industries) a huge percentage of global manufacturing over the past so many years and Venezuela has the largest known reserves of oil...........yet no 'fights' with these countries? Things aren't always what they seem.
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serial thriller The Promised Land 27 May 17 8.13pm | |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
What democracy? 'democratic decisions like Iran' LOL Edited by hedgehog50 (27 May 2017 7.58pm) Iran in the 50s elected a government under Mossadegh which was overthrown by the CIA and replaced by the Shah and then Khomeini, who were religious tyrants but more tolerated, apparently, than a progressive elected official. Look it up on Wikipedia! You can say that this was ages ago but it happened in Iraq in 2004, and similar policies have been taken in Libya, Syria, Palestine and across the lesser developed world.
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hedgehog50 Croydon 27 May 17 8.21pm | |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
Iran in the 50s elected a government under Mossadegh which was overthrown by the CIA and replaced by the Shah and then Khomeini, who were religious tyrants but more tolerated, apparently, than a progressive elected official. Look it up on Wikipedia! You can say that this was ages ago but it happened in Iraq in 2004, and similar policies have been taken in Libya, Syria, Palestine and across the lesser developed world. Are you suggesting that Saddam Hussein's government was democratic?
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Hrolf The Ganger 27 May 17 8.26pm | |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
Iran in the 50s elected a government under Mossadegh which was overthrown by the CIA and replaced by the Shah and then Khomeini, who were religious tyrants but more tolerated, apparently, than a progressive elected official. Look it up on Wikipedia! You can say that this was ages ago but it happened in Iraq in 2004, and similar policies have been taken in Libya, Syria, Palestine and across the lesser developed world. The West is so evil. I'm surprise you can bear to live in it.
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serial thriller The Promised Land 27 May 17 8.31pm | |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Are you suggesting that Saddam Hussein's government was democratic? No but after he was overthrown, democratic movements with the iraqi population were overridden and a proxy government was set up. People talk about 'having a debate' on things like immigration, the nhs etc and i usually think it's cringey as f*ck as a phrase. But we really should 'have a proper debate' about our foreign policy, because most people in this country haven't got a f*cking clue about what is happening in these countries, and are taxes are being spent on bombing them when it could be spent on looking after the poor, both in our society and abroad.
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serial thriller The Promised Land 27 May 17 8.33pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
The West is so evil. I'm surprise you can bear to live in it. Hmm yes, a thoughtful response, thanks for your input.
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