I don't think you would be either interested or agree with me but pm me if you really want to know. I have posted on this before too.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Back to the subject in hand she was right and the Dutch lady showed why we are leaving. She didn't like our electoral system well that is a matter for this country and until Brexit the EU never seemed to have a problem with it before.

Ann's main point was about freedom of movement that's not why I voted to leave but I suspect it was for many. I am convinced that if the EU had given Cameron some wriggle room your side would have won.

As I said the other day once freedom of movement to the UK ends where will the low skill people go and if it is in large numbers will those countries be as welcoming as us? I don't know but my suspicion is that what is seen as a British obsession may soon become an EU one.

One more point

They were both right.

Freedom of movement was the idea motivating many people, although I am not so sure everyone understood it and somehow thought that we would see reduced immigration as a consequence.

The main point being made by the "Dutch Lady" was not that at all. I don't think anyone argues that freedom of movement was a major factor in the Brexit vote. Her point was that under our fptp system the Tories only got a minority of the votes at the recent election, but a huge majority in Parliament.

For sure that's our business but she has every right to point it out as it happens to be true and the truth never hurt anyone. So long as Ann Widdecombe, or anyone else, go on in their time warp failing to recognise the truth of that, the longer it will be before we can get our system the reforms it so clearly needs. Attitudes like that are a drag anchor on the UK and it's ability to take it's place in the modern world.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

You know very well that I don't believe in referendums. Period.

However, in a binary vote PR is not relevant. You cannot transfer a yes to a no. If three options were on offer then it would be suitable.

When voting for a balanced Parliament which ensures that all strands of opinion are fairly represented it is the only system capable of doing so.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

I dont see how you could pick which candidate for each constituency if you did it as a total with the highest total wins.
It is in effect a majority vote wins in each one.
Different areas have different needs.

I fully agree with what you say wisbech you CAN be wrong but not only sometimes but quite a lot due to your one sided bias attitude.
I would have thought that with the result of the election where Boris won hands down you would have apologised for all the rubbish you posted prior to the election and also since then. But you continue to spout your usual rubbish and try to baffle us all with science but it is not working. I suggest until you accept that you were and are wrong in many aspects you go back down your hole and think sensibly how to wriggle out of all the cr@p you have posted.

Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.