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legaleagle 27 May 17 1.34pm | |
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The below says it all...
You can add to that list one Boris Johnson who wrote in 2005: “The Iraq war did not create the problem of murderous Islamic fundamentalists, though the war has unquestionably sharpened the resentments felt by such people in this country, and given them a new pretext.” Mr Johnson yesterday described Mr Corbyn’s speech as “monstrous.”
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Ouzo Dan Behind you 27 May 17 1.38pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
The fact is, now Corbyn is getting airtime, the more people are warming to him and Labour's vision. Tories are bricking it. I happen to agree with you nick, The Tories should be absolutely hammering Corbyn, this should have been the most pointless election in my lifetime yet the gap is closing & the Tories have no idea how respond.
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Stirlingsays 27 May 17 1.39pm | |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
The below says it all...
You can add to that list one Boris Johnson who wrote in 2005: “The Iraq war did not create the problem of murderous Islamic fundamentalists, though the war has unquestionably sharpened the resentments felt by such people in this country, and given them a new pretext.” Mr Johnson yesterday described Mr Corbyn’s speech as “monstrous.” Johnson's view on resentments and on Corbyn's policy proposals are by no means mutually exclusive. I'd agree with both of Johnson's comments. Edited by Stirlingsays (27 May 2017 1.40pm)
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Stirlingsays 27 May 17 1.44pm | |
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Originally posted by Ouzo Dan
Want to elaborate? I've given Corbyn credit for doing alot better than I thought he would but other than that, I still think they're all c***s What's the point? You equate May as being as bad as Corbyn. It's obvious that what is important to you differs from me. Like I say, man overboard. Edited by Stirlingsays (27 May 2017 1.48pm)
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steeleye20 Croydon 27 May 17 3.11pm | |
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Mrs May as home secretary cut police numbers ruthlessly with no regard for public safety. Labour offer 10,000 more police officers and show us where the money will come from. What's not to like.
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Hrolf The Ganger 27 May 17 3.21pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Mrs May as home secretary cut police numbers ruthlessly with no regard for public safety. Labour offer 10,000 more police officers and show us where the money will come from. What's not to like.
More national debt and people who can't do sums?
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steeleye20 Croydon 27 May 17 3.37pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
More national debt and people who can't do sums? No argument to my point about police numbers there.
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serial thriller The Promised Land 27 May 17 4.42pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Johnson's view on resentments and on Corbyn's policy proposals are by no means mutually exclusive. I'd agree with both of Johnson's comments. Edited by Stirlingsays (27 May 2017 1.40pm) Eh? How do you work that one out? This isn't just Johnson. The US intelligence agency, MI6 reports, and seemingly half the cabinet have previously echoed what Corbyn said, yet now condemn him. In my eyes the only criticism of Corbyn is that his comments don't go far enough. We still support and rely on Saudi Arabia, for example, who helped fund the Mujahadeen which Bin Laden emerged from, and were primary financiers of ISIS. Even now they are driving millions of Yemenites in to poverty, starvation and exile. ISIS and Al Qaeda are both growing exponentially in Yemen.
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hedgehog50 Croydon 27 May 17 4.48pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
No argument to my point about police numbers there. You think if we had even 10 times as many police it would have stopped Manchesterr from happening?
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hedgehog50 Croydon 27 May 17 4.52pm | |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
Eh? How do you work that one out? This isn't just Johnson. The US intelligence agency, MI6 reports, and seemingly half the cabinet have previously echoed what Corbyn said, yet now condemn him. In my eyes the only criticism of Corbyn is that his comments don't go far enough. We still support and rely on Saudi Arabia, for example, who helped fund the Mujahadeen which Bin Laden emerged from, and were primary financiers of ISIS. Even now they are driving millions of Yemenites in to poverty, starvation and exile. ISIS and Al Qaeda are both growing exponentially in Yemen. Whatever foreign policy we have, whatever concessions to Islamic ideas we have still they would want to blow us up, still they would want to have an Islamic totalitarian regime here.
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Hrolf The Ganger 27 May 17 5.28pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
No argument to my point about police numbers there. You use police figures like you use the NHS. It's just election blah blah.
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Stirlingsays 27 May 17 6.12pm | |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
Eh? How do you work that one out? This isn't just Johnson. The US intelligence agency, MI6 reports, and seemingly half the cabinet have previously echoed what Corbyn said, yet now condemn him. In my eyes the only criticism of Corbyn is that his comments don't go far enough. We still support and rely on Saudi Arabia, for example, who helped fund the Mujahadeen which Bin Laden emerged from, and were primary financiers of ISIS. Even now they are driving millions of Yemenites in to poverty, starvation and exile. ISIS and Al Qaeda are both growing exponentially in Yemen. A recognition that an extremist section of a minority feel resentment over foreign policy is not an excuse for a policy for appeasement. Poland took part in both the Afghanistan and Iraq wars....They don't get Islamic terrorist attacks, they are very rare in many eastern EU countries for obvious reasons.....though I doubt you would support the political decisions that led to that....even though there are people alive in Poland now who wouldn't be otherwise. Extremist groups have been a serious problem in Yehem for a long time...for a significant time before the House of Saud got involved. Yours and others wishful thinking attachment to a foreign policy that appeases to reduce attacks is nothing short of simplistic thinking. The problem is here....thanks for the stupidity of idealists....it is here now....and different governments or foreign policies won't change anything. There have always been high level supporters of a policy of appeasement. It's gone from official governmental policy in the past to being derided as a fool's path. I guess you can guess what I consider it as.
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