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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 19 Oct 22 7.18pm
Originally posted by croydon proud i"m breaking this newsflash before sky news! you heard it here first!
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Any european country i fancy! 19 Oct 22 7.18pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

i"m breaking this newsflash before sky news! you heard it here first!

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 19 Oct 22 7.25pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Chief Whip just walked. Over the fracking vote? Who knows, or understands. One mp who put in a no confidence vote on lizzy was made to vote with the government on fracking by the whipps- could have something to do with that. Deputy chief whip gone to.
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Any european country i fancy! 19 Oct 22 7.25pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Chief Whip just walked.

Over the fracking vote?

Who knows, or understands.

One mp who put in a no confidence vote on lizzy was made to vote with the government on fracking by the whipps- could have something to do with that. Deputy chief whip gone to.

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 19 Oct 22 7.26pm
Originally posted by croydon proud One mp who put in a no confidence vote on lizzy was made to vote with the government on fracking by the whipps- could have something to do with that. Deputy chief whip gone to. Whipps man handling tory mp crying into the voting boothe!
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Any european country i fancy! 19 Oct 22 7.26pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

One mp who put in a no confidence vote on lizzy was made to vote with the government on fracking by the whipps- could have something to do with that. Deputy chief whip gone to.

Whipps man handling tory mp crying into the voting boothe!

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Matov 19 Oct 22 7.36pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Chief Whip just walked. Over the fracking vote? Who knows, or understands. Saw something being bandied about earlier, supposedly the three line whip that had been issued on this which was suggesting that this was as much a vote of confidence issue in the government than the actual issue itself. Who knows? The Conservative Party is truly through the looking glass now. Edited by Matov (19 Oct 2022 7.37pm) "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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19 Oct 22 7.36pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Chief Whip just walked.

Over the fracking vote?

Who knows, or understands.

Saw something being bandied about earlier, supposedly the three line whip that had been issued on this which was suggesting that this was as much a vote of confidence issue in the government than the actual issue itself.

Who knows? The Conservative Party is truly through the looking glass now.

Edited by Matov (19 Oct 2022 7.37pm)

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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Spiderman Horsham 19 Oct 22 7.37pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Grant Shapps is on the left of the party like Hunt and was a remainer. The Tories didn't get a 80 seat majority to have a remainer PM, remainer chancellor and a remainer Home secretary.....you might as well have the WEF make the appointments. The Tories are literally writing their own suicide note with their own supporters here.....I almost can't quite believe the levels of incompetence I'm seeing. This is all aligning for our return to the EU. At least we won’t have posters on here crying into their croissants that we should have never left. What will CP emoji about when a Labour Government leads us back into the undemocratic EU? Obviously everything will be perfect
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Horsham 19 Oct 22 7.37pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Grant Shapps is on the left of the party like Hunt and was a remainer.

The Tories didn't get a 80 seat majority to have a remainer PM, remainer chancellor and a remainer Home secretary.....you might as well have the WEF make the appointments.

The Tories are literally writing their own suicide note with their own supporters here.....I almost can't quite believe the levels of incompetence I'm seeing.

This is all aligning for our return to the EU. At least we won’t have posters on here crying into their croissants that we should have never left. What will CP emoji about when a Labour Government leads us back into the undemocratic EU? Obviously everything will be perfect

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 19 Oct 22 7.38pm
Originally posted by Spiderman This is all aligning for our return to the EU. At least we won’t have posters on here crying into their croissants that we should have never left. What will CP emoji about when a Labour Government leads us back into the undemocratic EU? Obviously everything will be perfect
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Any european country i fancy! 19 Oct 22 7.38pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

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Spiderman Horsham 19 Oct 22 7.39pm
Originally posted by Matov Saw something being bandied about earlier, supposedly the three line whip that had been issued on this which was suggesting that this was as much a vote of confidence issue in the government than the actual issue itself. Who knows? The Conservative Party is truly through the looking glass now. Edited by Matov (19 Oct 2022 7.37pm) Yep, completely out of touch with their voters, not that many politicians actually care about the plebs. Tories will be in the wilderness for years and the British public will be at the mercy of the Unions, god help us
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Horsham 19 Oct 22 7.39pm

Originally posted by Matov

Who knows? The Conservative Party is truly through the looking glass now.

Edited by Matov (19 Oct 2022 7.37pm)

Yep, completely out of touch with their voters, not that many politicians actually care about the plebs.
Tories will be in the wilderness for years and the British public will be at the mercy of the Unions, god help us

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cryrst The garden of England 19 Oct 22 7.40pm
My mortgage has gone up around £40 in the last 18 my months. I’m not sure the fact some are coming off a fixed rate into another or variable can be used to argue a huge rise due to the current inflation rise. That would be inflation at about 50% which it clearly isn’t. Not in the uk anyhow.
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The garden of England 19 Oct 22 7.40pm

My mortgage has gone up around £40 in the last 18 my months.
I’m not sure the fact some are coming off a fixed rate into another or variable can be used to argue a huge rise due to the current inflation rise. That would be inflation at about 50% which it clearly isn’t. Not in the uk anyhow.

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Matov 19 Oct 22 7.43pm
Originally posted by Spiderman This is all aligning for our return to the EU. At least we won’t have posters on here crying into their croissants that we should have never left. What will CP emoji about when a Labour Government leads us back into the undemocratic EU? Obviously, everything will be perfect The thing is that a genuine third force in British politics could emerge from this with the only logical grouping being effectively English nationalism. England voted overwhelmingly, on a constituency basis, to leave the EU. And if we are pushed back into it, or as near dammit, then there will be a backlash. Many of the Brexit-focused parties are talking about trying to unite (not sure that will happen but it is being discussed) but suspect it could potentially be a newcomer. Farage is making noises and would be the obvious leader. Also, the Reform Party are claiming a surge in membership. But every action has a reaction. With politics perhaps the truest expression of that. Edited by Matov (19 Oct 2022 7.47pm) "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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19 Oct 22 7.43pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

The thing is that a genuine third force in British politics could emerge from this with the only logical grouping being effectively English nationalism. England voted overwhelmingly, on a constituency basis, to leave the EU. And if we are pushed back into it, or as near dammit, then there will be a backlash. Many of the Brexit-focused parties are talking about trying to unite (not sure that will happen but it is being discussed) but suspect it could potentially be a newcomer. Farage is making noises and would be the obvious leader. Also, the Reform Party are claiming a surge in membership.

But every action has a reaction. With politics perhaps the truest expression of that.

Edited by Matov (19 Oct 2022 7.47pm)

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 19 Oct 22 7.44pm
Originally posted by Spiderman This is all aligning for our return to the EU. At least we won’t have posters on here crying into their croissants that we should have never left. What will CP emoji about when a Labour Government leads us back into the undemocratic EU? Obviously everything will be perfect Don"t shoot the messenger spider, the truth will out with CP news, even before sky get the story! I will give you a discount on breaking news as I like you!
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Any european country i fancy! 19 Oct 22 7.44pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Don"t shoot the messenger spider, the truth will out with CP news, even before sky get the story! I will give you a discount on breaking news as I like you!

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Stirlingsays 19 Oct 22 7.45pm
Originally posted by Spiderman This is all aligning for our return to the EU. At least we won’t have posters on here crying into their croissants that we should have never left. What will CP emoji about when a Labour Government leads us back into the undemocratic EU? Obviously everything will be perfect Indeed. I think Peter Hitchens was right about the Tory party back when Cameron changed it. It needs a near complete clear out and to start again as an actual conservative party. It needs to stop trying to be all things to all men and being whatever a focus group or media journalist wants it to be...which is essentially the WEF party of power....stop doing that and actually be conservative. Get these spinners and PR people out of politics and present the country with actual left and right parties.....not neoliberal versions of the same thing with different tax policies. None of this will happen of course and indeed we will continue on with the freak show. Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Oct 2022 7.46pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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19 Oct 22 7.45pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Indeed.

I think Peter Hitchens was right about the Tory party back when Cameron changed it. It needs a near complete clear out and to start again as an actual conservative party.

It needs to stop trying to be all things to all men and being whatever a focus group or media journalist wants it to be...which is essentially the WEF party of power....stop doing that and actually be conservative.

Get these spinners and PR people out of politics and present the country with actual left and right parties.....not neoliberal versions of the same thing with different tax policies.

None of this will happen of course and indeed we will continue on with the freak show.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Oct 2022 7.46pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 19 Oct 22 7.46pm
Originally posted by Spiderman Yep, completely out of touch with their voters, not that many politicians actually care about the plebs. Tories will be in the wilderness for years and the British public will be at the mercy of the Unions, god help us Britain isn"t working-Everybody out! B
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Any european country i fancy! 19 Oct 22 7.46pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Britain isn"t working-Everybody out! B

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