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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 14 Apr 20 10.53pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

After the OBR report all tomorrow’s papers shouting how big the recession or depression will be. It’s now going to be the big talking point. I don’t see an immediate big bounce back happening.

Hopefully all the silly cvnt’s out there keep apart or stop meeting up like you see here and there so we can get to the case and deaths level to start getting business and work back again.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 14 Apr 20 10.59pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Anyone seen the most recent papers on how long this might persist? I think it’s pessimistic but 2022 now mooted as realistic regarding how long Social distancing may need to be in place for - not complete lockdown but an on / off approach.

This chart was also interesting. Sums it up nicely

Maybe I’m not reading it right but why would you opt for 4 instead of 6?

 


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Mapletree Flag Croydon 14 Apr 20 11.03pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

I enjoyed this as a bit of light relief

Someone on Quora asked “Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?” Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England wrote the following response:

A few things spring to mind.

Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.
For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.
So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.

Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing – not once, ever.
I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility – for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.

But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is – his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.

Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers.

And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults – he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.

There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface.

Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront.
Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.

And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist.
Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that.
He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat.

He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.

And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully.
That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead.

There are unspoken rules to this stuff – the Queensberry rules of basic decency – and he breaks them all. He punches downwards – which a gentleman should, would, could never do – and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless – and he kicks them when they are down.

So the fact that a significant minority – perhaps a third – of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think ‘Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:
• Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.
• You don’t need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.

This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss.
After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of s***. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.
God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid.

He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart.
In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws – he would make a Trump.

And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish:
‘My God... what... have... I... created?
If being a t*** was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set.

Orange man bad etc

This is great. Quora seems to have removed it though

Got a working link?

Edited by Mapletree (14 Apr 2020 11.03pm)

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 14 Apr 20 11.09pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by blackheatheagle

I understand where you are coming from and somewhat agree that political row around virus is not a priority.

However, if (and most probably) China hid the spread of the virus / alerting about its potential - danger, are they part of `We` that i bolded in your proposal? Because only if they are part of `We`, your statement that i highlighted in italic will be fully valid.

I just have a feeling that it is early to have any deal on not politicizing this as well because it should be far away from being priority for the government.

Edited by blackheatheagle (14 Apr 2020 10.23pm)

Who decided it is "most probably" true? And if it is true, why might they have done that?

Both are questions for tomorrow. Right now we don't have any tomorrows. We just have a series of todays.

Of course China need to be involved. We might dislike many aspects of their political system and cultural behaviour but China is a reality. They cannot just be ignored.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 14 Apr 20 11.10pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Anyone seen the most recent papers on how long this might persist? I think it’s pessimistic but 2022 now mooted as realistic regarding how long Social distancing may need to be in place for - not complete lockdown but an on / off approach.

This chart was also interesting. Sums it up nicely

Na, I'd say it's more realistic that they would stop at 2100....just to be on the hour.


Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Apr 2020 11.12pm)

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 14 Apr 20 11.15pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Trump has been very terrible through most of this but I’ve heard a couple of people to begin with say how small an issue Covid is, only to then complain weeks later how little Trump has done. This kind of thinking will be reflected in their polls I expect. They will really see his economic ability in recession soon which will be interesting with a president so against taxes.

 


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dannyboy1978 Flag 14 Apr 20 11.25pm Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Trump halts funding of World Health Organization, demands ‘full accountability’ over Covid-19 pandemic [Link]

Looks like the wheels are turning and the back lash is on its way

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 14 Apr 20 11.45pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Trump halts funding of World Health Organization, demands ‘full accountability’ over Covid-19 pandemic [Link]

Looks like the wheels are turning and the back lash is on its way


Ridiculous policising entirely for self serving reasons. Trump is playing to his base and nothing else.

This is not the time to defund the WHO. It's beyond crazy.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 15 Apr 20 1.25am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Trump halts funding of World Health Organization, demands ‘full accountability’ over Covid-19 pandemic [Link]

Looks like the wheels are turning and the back lash is on its way

About time.

 


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Midlands Eagle Flag 15 Apr 20 6.13am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle


Ridiculous policising entirely for self serving reasons. Trump is playing to his base and nothing else.

This is not the time to defund the WHO. It's beyond crazy.

But par for the course from Trump. Especially if you read the article quoted by SW19

 

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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 15 Apr 20 7.12am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Just like the corporate world.

When things are going swimmingly, people queue up for accolades.

When things go tlt5-up, you can't find anyone around you.

Blame Game has started already

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 15 Apr 20 7.15am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

I enjoyed this as a bit of light relief

Someone on Quora asked “Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?” Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England wrote the following response:

A few things spring to mind.

Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.
For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.
So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.

Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing – not once, ever.
I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility – for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.

But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is – his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.

Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers.

And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults – he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.

There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface.

Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront.
Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.

And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist.
Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that.
He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat.

He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.

And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully.
That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead.

There are unspoken rules to this stuff – the Queensberry rules of basic decency – and he breaks them all. He punches downwards – which a gentleman should, would, could never do – and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless – and he kicks them when they are down.

So the fact that a significant minority – perhaps a third – of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think ‘Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:
• Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.
• You don’t need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.

This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss.
After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of s***. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.
God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid.

He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart.
In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws – he would make a Trump.

And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish:
‘My God... what... have... I... created?
If being a t*** was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set.

Orange man bad etc

I agree with a lot of this or put simply Trump is a bully and we British don't like that.

 


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