I'd love for you to show me an example of someone in the media wanting to discuss immigration and then being shot down and the debate stooped due to 'racism'.

Edited by EricYoung'sSweatBand (06 Apr 2015 2.14pm)

The Labour Party,which you suggest has been unwilling to "talk seriously" about "controlled immigration", in fact had the following in its 2010 manifesto.

"Strong borders and immigration controls

We are committed to an immigration system that
promotes and protects British values. People need to know that immigration is controlled,that the rules are firm and fair,and that there is support for
communities in dealing with change.
Our borders are stronger than ever. A new Border Agency has police-level powers and
thousands more immigration officers, 100 per cent of visas are now biometric, and new electronic border controls will be counting people in and out
by the end of the year. Asylum claims are back down to early 1990s levels, and the cost of
asylum support to the taxpayer has been cut by half in the last six years. Genuine refugees will
continue to receive protection.Our new Australian-style points based system is ensuring we
get the migrants our economy needs, but no more. We will gradually tighten the criteria in line with the needs of the British economy and the values
of British citizenship, and step up our action against illegal immigration. There will be
no unskilled migration from outside the EU. Skilled jobs are now advertised here first for
four weeks with more vacancies going to local workers, and public procurement will in
future give priority to local people. The points-based system will be used to control migration with limits for high skilled workers and university
students. As growth returns we want to see rising levels of employment and wages, not rising immigration. We recognise that immigration
can place pressures on housing and public services in some communities so we will expand
the Migration Impact Fund,paid for by contributions from migrants, to help local areas.
We know that migrants who are fluent in English are more likely to work and find it easier
to integrate. So as well as making our English test harder, we will ensure it is taken by all
applicants before they arrive.Local councils and other public services should keep funding
for translation services to a minimum. Many public-sector workers are already required
to meet minimum standards of English; we will build on this to ensure that all employees who
have contact with the public possess an appropriate level of English language competence.
Because we believe coming to Britain is a privilege and not a right, we will break the automatic link between staying here for a set period and being able to settle or gain citizenship. In future, staying
will be dependent on the points based system, and access to benefits and social housing will
increasingly be reserved for British citizens and permanent residents – saving the taxpayer
hundreds of millions of pounds each year. We will continueto emphasise the value we place on citizenship, and the responsibilities as well as rights it brings, through the citizenship
pledge and ceremony, and by strengthening the test of British values and traditions."

Edited by legaleagle (06 Apr 2015 3.12pm)

I've seen it loads of time both in and outside of the media. It's happened on question time and well.....I remember that old lady complaining to Brown about immigration and once he got into his car him calling her a bigot.....A comment that many lefties agreed with afterwards.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Edited by legaleagle (06 Apr 2015 3.25pm)

The debate is legal so no one is shutting it down are they!

The only memorable is example you have is Gordon Brown 5 years ago speaking, what he thought, privately...

Let's have some examples of the debate being shut down please

Edited by EricYoung'sSweatBand (06 Apr 2015 3.27pm)