OK.In deference to TUX, please read as if "voters" is deleted and replaced by "people".

Can't say I have ever thought the 1945 election outcome was utterly irrelevant in terms of meaningful changes to many people's lives nor,going to the opposite end of the spectrum, that in Germany in 1933 for that matter.

As Richard Neville wrote:"There may only be an inch of difference between the parties but it's that inch we live in".Even within the TUX analysis that a small clique of bankers control everything...

Pity you don't post any links etc. Might be interesting to follow up given the original point you made was certainly an interesting and reasonable one IMO.

Sorry if I had previously misunderstood your posts about central banks/bankers etc. My error.

Edited by legaleagle (06 Apr 2015 12.24am)

I kind of like your post but I don't really understand the first paragraph.

The freedom of movement policy inherent within membership of the EU makes an 'open door' to all EU citizens mandatory. So in reality by accepting our current form of EU membership those parties are most definitely advocating the open door.

People against Ukip are often accusing people who don't agree with high uncontrolled immigration as being racist or xenophobic or bigots and pretty much anything else they can think of.

This is the same behaviour that caused the problem in the first place. By accusing people of racism these fools shut down debate and caused resentment.....They indirectly created the very thing they despised in the first place.

As for social responsibility. I care about my own first. I care about British youth and workers who are kept on low wages by the increased competition. I care about the housing and social infrastructure crises caused (in part) by unfetted EU immigration.

Lefties cry crocodile tears over this and instead of supporting an EU controlled immigration policy. Instead choose to unrealistically blame the government for not getting out its credit card and adding to the 1.5 tillion debt we have.

Who is going to suffer for this ideology? It won't be the foreigners who leave when things downturn. It will be the British youth inheriting and paying back the interest on a pile set up by ideological people who point fingers without looking in the mirror.

The British taxpayer isn't here to cure the ills of other nations. It should be here to best benefit the British state.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Ridiculous indeed: You don't deal with any of the actual specific points made in the article linked, but just knee jerk default reaction.

The immigration debate hasn't been 'shut down' and never has. It's been discussed non-stop since I can remember. The idea that it's been 'shut down' is a UKIP strategy and nothing else.

There was a period for about 2 years under the last labour government where they wanted to shut the debate down but they never managed it.

Perhaps matched only by the utter vacuousness of your tunnel visioned response, Hoof!