It's time for Roy and Ray to retire. Left by mutual agreement should be acceptable to all parties.

Especially considering no one wanted the job in the summer and Parish had to persuade Roy to take it…we’re even less appealing now!

I think half the issue is that they've pulled the trigger to late - no one will want it now.

We've a better squad than a few teams, but our manager seems to want to drill into us we are not good enough. When he was at Liverpool - the players there said they were made to be fearful of the opposition, not concentrate on how good they were.

Hrolf mentioned somewhere about missing Eze, Olise, Doucoure, etc - well I can't help but think Roy's training methods are not suited to any kind of attacking player. It's clear we don't practice any form of attacking, and it's all structure in defence and our flair players are being overworked.

Sadly I think Roy is a relic of a bygone era - and also a stubborn old man unable to admit any kind of mistake - take his England leaving interview. Unable to take any kind of responsibility or understand how he could possibly have got anything wrong.

He'd have had Wright and Bright defending from the front in 1990, and we'd have gone down.

I don't feel the same kind of connection to Palace these days, and sadly Roy is part of that. Organisation is what you need when you are in crisis, managed progression is what you need when you are stable. What was progressive 50 years ago isn't now. At one time trench warfare was progressive.

I think we are stuck with him though and if I was a Palace player I'd be looking at my manager thinking that he wouldn't inspire a rabbit to reproduce.

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The only focus here should be on the best way to keep the club up.
I don't see how disharmony can lead to anything except disaster.

We have to let Parish make the decision on who manages the team based on prevailing circumstances.

Shouting abuse at the chairman, manager and players and holding up stupid banners will only make matters worse.

Surely everyone wants the same thing here. Premier League next season.

I think half the issue is that they've pulled the trigger to late - no one will want it now.

We've a better squad than a few teams, but our manager seems to want to drill into us we are not good enough. When he was at Liverpool - the players there said they were made to be fearful of the opposition, not concentrate on how good they were.

Hrolf mentioned somewhere about missing Eze, Olise, Doucoure, etc - well I can't help but think Roy's training methods are not suited to any kind of attacking player. It's clear we don't practice any form of attacking, and it's all structure in defence and our flair players are being overworked.

Sadly I think Roy is a relic of a bygone era - and also a stubborn old man unable to admit any kind of mistake - take his England leaving interview. Unable to take any kind of responsibility or understand how he could possibly have got anything wrong.

He'd have had Wright and Bright defending from the front in 1990, and we'd have gone down.

I don't feel the same kind of connection to Palace these days, and sadly Roy is part of that. Organisation is what you need when you are in crisis, managed progression is what you need when you are stable. What was progressive 50 years ago isn't now. At one time trench warfare was progressive.

I think we are stuck with him though and if I was a Palace player I'd be looking at my manager thinking that he wouldn't inspire a rabbit to reproduce. Then he'd replace the rabbit with a young player and blame the young player when it doesn't happen.

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