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 Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 15 Oct 23 8.13pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
If that’s the case why didn’t they stick with kick it out. If you recall there were blm banners all over the grounds. That’s supporting or as a minimum advertising the organisation isn’t it! Didn’t the “kick it out” campaign follow the BLM one primarily because of the way it was being misrepresented and misunderstood?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 15 Oct 23 8.25pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Of course football supported BLM.
What was done by individual or groups of supporters has nothing to do with what the FA were doing. They explicitly stated that they supported the movement but not the political organisation that uses the words. That many were confused about this is blindingly obvious. It seems you still are as were those displaying any banners you claim to have seen. Which I didn’t.
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| Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 15 Oct 23 8.36pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
What was done by individual or groups of supporters has nothing to do with what the FA were doing. They explicitly stated that they supported the movement but not the political organisation that uses the words. That many were confused about this is blindingly obvious. It seems you still are as were those displaying any banners you claim to have seen. Which I didn’t. Start a movement with the slogan ‘Arbeit Macht Frei’. See how that goes as you try to distance yourself from the historical connection.
hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing. |
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Nicholas91  The Democratic Republic of Kent 15 Oct 23 8.48pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
What was done by individual or groups of supporters has nothing to do with what the FA were doing. They explicitly stated that they supported the movement but not the political organisation that uses the words. That many were confused about this is blindingly obvious. It seems you still are as were those displaying any banners you claim to have seen. Which I didn’t. A bit like all those who supported the notion of a National Socialist German Workers Party but didn’t associate whatsoever with Hitler et al nearly a century ago now. They just wanted to see the German Workers represented, and believed in the nation, and wanted to give socialism a go. Had no idea about all the other stuff. Also, they heard South America was lovely and up and coming in the mid 1940s. All coincidences that had nothing to do with allegiances to movements/organisations, just a coincidence where the exact same wording was used, the exact same.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 15 Oct 23 8.51pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
What was done by individual or groups of supporters has nothing to do with what the FA were doing. They explicitly stated that they supported the movement but not the political organisation that uses the words. That many were confused about this is blindingly obvious. It seems you still are as were those displaying any banners you claim to have seen. Which I didn’t. I suppose it's hard to see anything with your head so far up your own arse. Your ridiculous position mirrors the FA.
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Attachment: Teddy Eagle  15 Oct 23 8.57pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
What was done by individual or groups of supporters has nothing to do with what the FA were doing. They explicitly stated that they supported the movement but not the political organisation that uses the words. That many were confused about this is blindingly obvious. It seems you still are as were those displaying any banners you claim to have seen. Which I didn’t. The banners weren't hard to see.
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| Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 15 Oct 23 9.02pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I suppose it's hard to see anything with your head so far up your own arse. Your ridiculous position mirrors the FA. It got worse…remember all the kneeling during the Euros that culminated in England losing the final due to the penalty shootout? To drive the point home that Black Lives Matter, what better way to put the cherry on the top of the cake than by having a footballer of colour scoring the winning penalty. Unlikely to be the winning penalty in shots 1 or 2 but if you put coloured players on shots 3, 4, and 5, then the euphoria of that winning penalty secures the message. Except it didn’t happen that way…
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| YT Oxford 15 Oct 23 9.13pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I suppose it's hard to see anything with your head so far up your own arse. Your ridiculous position mirrors the FA. As the saying goes: "There is none so blind as he who will not see".
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cryrst  The garden of England 15 Oct 23 9.15pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Didn’t the “kick it out” campaign follow the BLM one primarily because of the way it was being misrepresented and misunderstood?
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| georgenorman 15 Oct 23 10.09pm |
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Reading the last few posts of Wisbelch, how can anyone take his nonsense seriously?
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| YT Oxford 16 Oct 23 7.53am |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Reading the last few posts of Wisbelch, how can anyone take his nonsense seriously? I don't think anyone does, do they?
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| Badger11 Beckenham 16 Oct 23 9.35am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Didn’t the “kick it out” campaign follow the BLM one primarily because of the way it was being misrepresented and misunderstood? I'm surprised at this comment. When the whole BLM debate started those of us who opposed it pointed out that Kick It Out was started by the FA decades ago so if the players were so concerned about black lives and racism why were they not supporting it. BLM just take the knee and apparently that will solve matters. Kick It Out actually has a program they go into schools and other bodies and talk about racism to young people. Their agenda is not linked to any political movement. If the players feel that Kick It Out is not working then as it's a program they are heavily involved in they have the power to change it for the better. I have never understood (nor has Wilf) how taking the knee will change things. If the players are really that concerned they have always had the power to really shake things up by going on strike or refusing to play in certain games or refusing to do interviews or promotional work etc etc. The fact that the players don't do any of this shows that they they are paying lip service to an issue they don't really care about.
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