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Den1923 05 Jan 19 9.19am | |
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Originally posted by OldFella
You're wrong here, I think. A massive bullet dodged, imho. sadly you seem to be the one that is wrong on this one, what was the true reason for the transfer to breakdown?, clearly not a fitness issue as some suggest, otherwise why would Bournemouth pay £19 mill for his services? this is another cock-up by SP et-al, clearly Liverpool wanted to sell and he did not want to buy, Roy said it all at Wolves on Tuesday when he suggested it was their (the Clubs decision), suggesting he was not 100% behind it. Bournemouth and Eddie Howe, seem to upstage us a lot these days and so much for those who think having a bigger ground will make us more competitive, what we really need is a good chairman who invests in the team and leaves the manager to manager the playing side, just see how quickly Bournemouth have quickly closed this deal and others since the window opened!
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Eaglecoops CR3 05 Jan 19 9.28am | |
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Isn’t this just a simple case of he failed his medical? If we wanted a player who could play immediately then he does not fit the bill. We were probably offered him to buy as well but as someone else has said, why spend that sort of money on one player when we are looking to strengthen in more than one position with a limited budget.
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rattus2002 05 Jan 19 9.37am | |
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Originally posted by Den1923
sadly you seem to be the one that is wrong on this one, what was the true reason for the transfer to breakdown?, clearly not a fitness issue as some suggest, otherwise why would Bournemouth pay £19 mill for his services? this is another cock-up by SP et-al, clearly Liverpool wanted to sell and he did not want to buy, Roy said it all at Wolves on Tuesday when he suggested it was their (the Clubs decision), suggesting he was not 100% behind it. Bournemouth and Eddie Howe, seem to upstage us a lot these days and so much for those who think having a bigger ground will make us more competitive, what we really need is a good chairman who invests in the team and leaves the manager to manager the playing side, just see how quickly Bournemouth have quickly closed this deal and others since the window opened! It’s been pointed out by a previous poster. Bournemouth have excess strikers which mean they can wait the 5/6 weeks it will take for Solanke to be match fit. We might as well give Wickham the opportunity to do this rather than spend 19mil on a striker that’s played no premier league football. Who knows if Solanke will be a success, he has no pedigree to speak of other than age group football. He may well be a fantastic but he isn’t what we need right now.
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Nobbybm Dartford 05 Jan 19 9.47am | |
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Originally posted by DeanMiles
Liverpool paid about 3 or 4 mill for him? Hardly played, scored a couple of goals and then get £19 mill for him. Crazy! Liverpool offered £4m, Chelski wanted £12m and apparently a tribunal came up with an undisclosed figure between the two. It’s simple player ‘farming’. Big clubs hoard talented kids & talk them up as the next big thing which increases their perceived value leading to smaller clubs taking a gamble on them at inflated fees. If they then go on to develop into their full potential the bigger club can simply buy them back, albeit at an even bigger cost. The ratio of success means they generally end up better off due to the sheer number that don’t make it & have none of the development costs/hassle in the meantime.
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Den1923 05 Jan 19 9.49am | |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
Isn’t this just a simple case of he failed his medical? If we wanted a player who could play immediately then he does not fit the bill. We were probably offered him to buy as well but as someone else has said, why spend that sort of money on one player when we are looking to strengthen in more than one position with a limited budget. I think it is more to do with skill factors in identifying targets, if he did have a minor injury, then that was obvious before we started talking to Liverpool, so then why waste time, we signed Sakho when he was injured and Tomkins come to that, even though we were in urgent need of defenders at the time. Apart from Spurs we have invested nothing over the last two transfer windows have made the lowest investment in our team in the whole of PL and frankly most of those that have come in on the cheap has been a waste of space, we seem incapable of handling transfer or getting them over the line why?, SP seem to be the problem every-time!
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Aray South London 05 Jan 19 9.53am | |
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£19m seems like a lot of money for an injured/unfit and completely unproven player. Too much for us when we really need someone who will hit the ground running. Would be great if we could get in the position where we buy a player for the future- I suspect Bournemouth won’t be buying a striker in the summer. How much did we shell out in Benteke?!
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Nobbybm Dartford 05 Jan 19 10.07am | |
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Originally posted by Den1923
I think it is more to do with skill factors in identifying targets, if he did have a minor injury, then that was obvious before we started talking to Liverpool, so then why waste time, we signed Sakho when he was injured and Tomkins come to that, even though we were in urgent need of defenders at the time. Apart from Spurs we have invested nothing over the last two transfer windows have made the lowest investment in our team in the whole of PL and frankly most of those that have come in on the cheap has been a waste of space, we seem incapable of handling transfer or getting them over the line why?, SP seem to be the problem every-time! Reports said his injury was sorted - doesn’t mean he was ready to play which is what we need (having two strikers not match fit already). I, for one, am glad we walked away and admit I’d have been highly critical of SP if we’d got Solanke & couldn’t use him properly for a month or so - we all know how cautious Roy is introducing players. Incessant SP bashing seems both without foundation and pointless in this instance. As an aside, I hope the FA impose proper FFP sanctions against Bournemouth this time too - transfer embargo or points deduction - instead of a tiny fine.
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Den1923 05 Jan 19 11.48am | |
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Originally posted by Nobbybm
Reports said his injury was sorted - doesn’t mean he was ready to play which is what we need (having two strikers not match fit already). I, for one, am glad we walked away and admit I’d have been highly critical of SP if we’d got Solanke & couldn’t use him properly for a month or so - we all know how cautious Roy is introducing players. Incessant SP bashing seems both without foundation and pointless in this instance. As an aside, I hope the FA impose proper FFP sanctions against Bournemouth this time too - transfer embargo or points deduction - instead of a tiny fine. In his position the blame stops with him, his antecedence in dealing with transfers is sadly evidenced by his performance over recent windows, for example he allowed us to start this season with one very out of form fit striker and therefore the current problems in that department are solely down to him and furthermore we are now entering the second week of this narrow window, still without a decent hit man, as for the FFP rules that does not seem to bother others!
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Booted Eagle Bristol 05 Jan 19 12.00pm | |
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Seem to remember this has occurred with another player in the past with a medical raising concerns and us pulling away. Was it Bendtner ? Nothing wrong with this. Interesting to know whether the medical details were divulged by the Solanke team to the Cherries.
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butascratch Nottingham 05 Jan 19 12.08pm | |
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It also seems that Bournemouth may be selling Callum Wilson to Chelsea, so have the money to spend on a replacement.
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Booted Eagle Bristol 05 Jan 19 12.12pm | |
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Originally posted by matthau
Or maybe we have our eyes on bringing in two strikers and a winger and spending £19m on one will put a stop to that Yes a decent striker is a priority. But none of us truly know if he'll hit the ground running. None of us Bournemouth only bought him cos they can't loan Clyne and him We might get bhatsuyi, buy moses and another striker But this may take a few more days or weeks This slolanke deal is not bad news for us at all, if anything could end up a bit of good luck Edited by matthau (04 Jan 2019 7.01pm) Good points.Have to believe that he is injured at the moment so may well not see him for a while, which is not ideal for us as others mentioned. Our concerns are more needy than Bournemouth. He could easily turn out to be Jordon Ibe Mk 2 for them.
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Booted Eagle Bristol 05 Jan 19 12.14pm | |
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Originally posted by butascratch
It also seems that Bournemouth may be selling Callum Wilson to Chelsea, so have the money to spend on a replacement. That would be ironic as Solanke started at Chelsea himself.
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