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Hrolf The Ganger 30 Oct 17 2.01pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
May said she's going to Chuck them out apparently. [Tweet Link]
Racism is a societal no no now, as is homophobia, now the anti PC brigade can't be sexist or misogynist . Whatever will they do? Edited by nickgusset (30 Oct 2017 10.59am) If only all these things weren't used for political and selfish purposes and people genuinely were becoming better people. Maybe then we could take it more seriously. All this PC stuff has become weaponised in a identity politics free for all. Here you go with a prime example of what I'm talking about.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 30 Oct 17 2.04pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
This is very easy to clear up. Do you condemn this. Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Oct 2017 2.00pm)
I condemn the punching in the first link. What s the context of the second video? Who else was there? What started the trouble? Until I know the full facts it would be wrong to make a judgement.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 30 Oct 17 2.10pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
If only all these things weren't used for political and selfish purposes and people genuinely were becoming better people. Maybe then we could take it more seriously. All this PC stuff has become weaponised in a identity politics free for all. Here you go with a prime example of what I'm talking about. You don't take it seriously because you feel a bit guilty. It's certainly made me think about what I might have said in my younger days. Fact is, what has been acceptable in the past is not so now. It's not PC gone mad, it's about being nice to eachother and showing a modicum of respect. I'm afraid the white patriarchal system is dying out. Get over it.
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Stirlingsays 30 Oct 17 2.11pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
I condemn the punching in the first link. What s the context of the second video? Who else was there? What started the trouble? Until I know the full facts it would be wrong to make a judgement. Well, I welcome your recognition that this isn't the right way of dealing with those we disagree with. As for you suggesting that a domestic terrorist group need to be shown in context. Well, this isn't a court of law so you have a little wiggle room there. But I'll leave that there.
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Stirlingsays 30 Oct 17 2.30pm | |
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As for all this May stuff. I don't support sacking people for their points of views. That's on the left or right. It's been happening a lot lately and I tend to disagree with it. I don't support arresting people for 'nasty tweets' and that sort of thing. Call an arsehole an arsehole...block them. If people are engaged in sexual abuse or harassment then as representatives I think employers need to look at things. However, support is often more beneficial to society than exclusion.....which just pushes the problem somewhere else. In cases where that is realistically possible it's a consideration. There is a lot of mental illness and many people behave irrationally for many different reasons. I do think we need to get overt politics out of our education system. This should be done via upholding professionalism and impartiality within the system.....In humanities you need teachers who can present both sides of any political or societal topic without bias outside of a respect for civility.....In many places, especially in higher education, this has gone wrong for many decades now. Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Oct 2017 2.35pm)
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Stirlingsays 30 Oct 17 2.46pm | |
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Civility is good and should be encouraged and the lack of it discouraged. That's called good manners and treating others how you would like to be treated. That's as far as it goes. What's happening in our corporations and political institutions is a culture of witch hunts, where if you say something activists and self appointed 'representatives' doesn't like you get sacked. Not good....not good whoever is doing it. The media with their desire for any outrage that gains attention and hence money....and 'activists' who know that outrage gains attention.....those arseholes have a lot to blame for the level of faux hysteria society regularly performs. Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Oct 2017 2.48pm)
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Hrolf The Ganger 30 Oct 17 3.54pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
You don't take it seriously because you feel a bit guilty. It's certainly made me think about what I might have said in my younger days. Fact is, what has been acceptable in the past is not so now. It's not PC gone mad, it's about being nice to eachother and showing a modicum of respect. I'm afraid the white patriarchal system is dying out. Get over it. To err is human... No one is perfect. Like I said, If people didn't use it to smear a Prime Minister, get a pay out from an employer, use it as an excuse to sack someone or an excuse for their own fecklessness then I might believe in it's sincerity more. Then you use 'racist' sexist language against people whos demographic you are in. Weird in itself and daft. White men are often in charge because they have earned the right and run the game. Remember, we all started as equals on day one of humanity and this is where we got to. I see this identity politics stuff as an attempt by the so called victims of the system to get more for themselves at the expense of others. Exactly the same as your White males did. Oh and it is slightly ironic that the PM you want to smear is a woman and you want to replace her with an aging White windbag.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 30 Oct 17 4.08pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
To err is human... No one is perfect. Like I said, If people didn't use it to smear a Prime Minister, get a pay out from an employer, use it as an excuse to sack someone or an excuse for their own fecklessness then I might believe in it's sincerity more. Then you use 'racist' sexist language against people whos demographic you are in. Weird in itself and daft. White men are often in charge because they have earned the right and run the game. Remember, we all started as equals on day one of humanity and this is where we got to. I see this identity politics stuff as an attempt by the so called victims of the system to get more for themselves at the expense of others. Exactly the same as your White males did. Oh and it is slightly ironic that the PM you want to smear is a woman and you want to replace her with an aging White windbag. The gender of the PM is no issue. She's a c***. If it were a bloke with the same policies and lack of backbone, he'd be a c***. Why don't you ask some women who have been harassed by workmates, see what they have to say.
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DanH SW2 30 Oct 17 4.13pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
To err is human... No one is perfect. Like I said, If people didn't use it to smear a Prime Minister, get a pay out from an employer, use it as an excuse to sack someone or an excuse for their own fecklessness then I might believe in it's sincerity more. Then you use 'racist' sexist language against people whos demographic you are in. Weird in itself and daft. Remember, we all started as equals on day one of humanity and this is where we got to. I see this identity politics stuff as an attempt by the so called victims of the system to get more for themselves at the expense of others. Exactly the same as your White males did. Oh and it is slightly ironic that the PM you want to smear is a woman and you want to replace her with an aging White windbag. Do you ever ask yourself why this is?
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Hrolf The Ganger 30 Oct 17 4.14pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
The gender of the PM is no issue. She's a c***. If it were a bloke with the same policies and lack of backbone, he'd be a c***. Why don't you ask some women who have been harassed by workmates, see what they have to say. People use words like harassment far too loosely now and as with the ridiculous use of the term 'racism' to include anything a non white person takes a dislike to, it undermines and dilutes any serious example. It's all too easy to make accuations with out any foundation or supporting evidence.
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Stuk Top half 30 Oct 17 4.15pm | |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
The problem with Pence following the "Billy Graham Rule" is that it's overtly sexist. He treats male colleagues, associates and acquaintances differently to female colleagues, associates and acquaintances. He would have no compunction going to lunch at the drop of a hat with a random dude he just met, but he would not take lunch with a long-term female colleague if his wife wasn't there too. He's not grabbing pussy like his boss, but he's treating women very differently to men. That's dictionary-definition sexism. In his position, it's overtly precautious rather than overtly sexist. He shouldn't have to dine alone with anyone he doesn't want to. As for the part in bold - Yes he would, so long as someone else was there.
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Hrolf The Ganger 30 Oct 17 4.22pm | |
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Originally posted by DanH
Do you ever ask yourself why this is? I know why. Because they adapted to the prevailing environment better and don't have babies.
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