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 Stirlingsays  16 Aug 17 11.19am |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Yep, its a day out, get to meet people, usually a few women around, and its pretty good fun, even if its a largely futile approach. Its the political motivated equivalent of hiking. Yeah, but do the kind of women who go on protest marches wash much? I bet you find more make up in North Korean farms than on your average woman on some 'right on' protest march. All entirely based upon my own prejudices of course. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Aug 2017 11.20am)
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| wordup 16 Aug 17 12.10pm |
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Quote “Charlottesville: Race and Terror,” follows Christopher Cantwell, an unabashed white supremacist who spews racist invective while traveling around with a band of neo-Nazis. Cantwell is a prominent “alt-right” shock jock who came to Charlottesville to speak at the “United the Right” rally. In the documentary, Cantwell and a posse of assorted white supremacists speak forcefully about the warped theories underpinning what they consider to be an impending and inevitable race war.
“We’re not non-violent, we’ll f***ing kill these people if we have to,” he tells Vice News Tonight correspondent, Elle Reeve, after we’ve seen him rinsing mace off his face with milk. Following the car attack that took the life of one of the protesters, 31-year-old Heather Heyer, and injured 19 others, Cantwell showed no regret, much less remorse. “I’d say it was worth it,” Cantwell says. “The fact that nobody on our side died, I’d go ahead and call that points for us.” “I think a lot more people are going to die here,” he says, smirking, and predicted even more violent encounters in the future.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Aug 17 12.50pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Hardly BS then is it. I didn't claim that Trump was some economic genius. The reason the markets have risen is precisely because of Trump being there and what they expect him to do in terms of regulations.
You were doing what other Trump apologists do. Complain about "a lack of evenness" in the way the MSM report him. There is no such thing at all. He deserves all he gets and more because he makes claims that are entirely false whilst complaining that those who explain why they are false are publishing "fake news". Trump would not not know the truth if it bit him on the backside. His claims about a rising market are false because the rise is a bubble and not down to an economic recovery he fantasises he has created. The MSM are just telling it as it is. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (16 Aug 2017 1.04pm)
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Aug 17 1.01pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
No problems with people protesting white supremacy. However antifa also go to protests with weapons and attack people. The events at Berkeley where violence was used against a Milo event and people put in hospital set this protest violence trend going and it's just escalating now. Both sets of people are extremists and Trump was right about this. Whilst no-one should ever initiate violence against anyone, being extreme about protesting white supremacy and Nazism has more moral authority than being a white supremacist or a Nazi. Trump has twice failed to make that distinction, and I am not sure that either he, or you, understand why it matters that he needs to. If there were no Nazis then there would be no Antifa. Violence from the latter is a direct consequence of the existence of the former. The emergence from the shadows of the former is a direct consequence of Trump's election as POTUS.
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| .TUX. 16 Aug 17 1.03pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You were doing what other Trump apologists do. Complain about "a lack of evenness" in the way the MSM report him. There is no such thing at all. He deserves all he gets and more because he makes claims that are entirely false whilst complaining that those who explain why they are false and publishing "fake news". Trump would not not know the truth if it bit him on the backside. His claims about a rising market are false because the rise is a bubble and not down to an economic recovery he fantasises he has created. The MSM are just telling it as it is. Agreed.
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| Stirlingsays 16 Aug 17 2.21pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You were doing what other Trump apologists do. Complain about "a lack of evenness" in the way the MSM report him. There is no such thing at all. He deserves all he gets and more because he makes claims that are entirely false whilst complaining that those who explain why they are false are publishing "fake news". Trump would not not know the truth if it bit him on the backside. His claims about a rising market are false because the rise is a bubble and not down to an economic recovery he fantasises he has created. The MSM are just telling it as it is. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (16 Aug 2017 1.04pm) 'Trump apologist' I criticise Trump where I disagree and praise him where I do agree...Not that it matters a hill of beans....The reality is I disagree far more than agree. But I'm not a demoniser like you seem to be here. As for a bubble...maybe, but the reality is that the markets have risen because he is there. Your denial was just irrational....but I don't really expect anything different from you.
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About what am I apologizing? So sorry that I'm not filled with the immature, emotional hate that you appear filled with. | Stirlingsays 16 Aug 17 2.28pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Whilst no-one should ever initiate violence against anyone, being extreme about protesting white supremacy and Nazism has more moral authority than being a white supremacist or a Nazi. Trump has twice failed to make that distinction, and I am not sure that either he, or you, understand why it matters that he needs to. If there were no Nazis then there would be no Antifa. Violence from the latter is a direct consequence of the existence of the former. The emergence from the shadows of the former is a direct consequence of Trump's election as POTUS. I agree with your first sentence. I don't agree with the criticism of Trump....over and above saying that he tries to straddle the line and go more soft focus on where his votes come from....Obama did it with black lives matter....But Trump has actually attacked the KKK and quite rightly....also anyone involved in violence...also rightly. As for your point about Antifa......Mmmm...they violently closed down Milo at Berkeley and while you might not like Milo he's not a fascist or white supremacist....But I'm well aware that antifa are very willing to dramatically lower and alter the standards for what fits what. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Aug 2017 2.28pm)
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Ray in Houston  Houston 16 Aug 17 2.31pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
No problems with people protesting white supremacy. However antifa also go to protests with weapons and attack people. The events at Berkeley where violence was used against a Milo event and people put in hospital set this protest violence trend going and it's just escalating now. Both sets of people are extremists and Trump was right about this. No. A thousand times no! Violent protests should not be tolerated. But to claim that Antifa are "extremists", when they are simply opposing those who believe everyone is inferior to the white race and that Jews should be exterminated is flat out, dead wrong. How the f*** is that an extreme position? You just called the Allies in WW2 extremists. Edited by Ray in Houston (16 Aug 2017 2.32pm)
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| Stirlingsays 16 Aug 17 2.58pm |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
No. A thousand times no! Violent protests should not be tolerated. But to claim that Antifa are "extremists", when they are simply opposing those who believe everyone is inferior to the white race and that Jews should be exterminated is flat out, dead wrong. How the f*** is that an extreme position? You just called the Allies in WW2 extremists. Edited by Ray in Houston (16 Aug 2017 2.32pm) No I didn't, that's a silly comment. The allies were people fighting a state declared war. Antifa are not carrying out any sanctioned actions. Indeed they have just been declared a terrorist group in one state and others will likely follow suit soon. I have no problems with those that oppose some opinion protesting about it.....that's a healthy exercise of democracy But antifa go far beyond that...have you been to their website? Antifa violently closed down Milo at Berkeley. If far right groups are getting out of hand then that's a matter for the law. All Antifa do is worsen the situation. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Aug 2017 2.59pm)
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| serial thriller The Promised Land 16 Aug 17 3.00pm |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
No. A thousand times no! Violent protests should not be tolerated. But to claim that Antifa are "extremists", when they are simply opposing those who believe everyone is inferior to the white race and that Jews should be exterminated is flat out, dead wrong. How the f*** is that an extreme position? You just called the Allies in WW2 extremists. Edited by Ray in Houston (16 Aug 2017 2.32pm) Spot on.
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| Ray in Houston Houston 16 Aug 17 3.02pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
No I didn't, that's a silly comment. The allies were people fighting a state declared war. Antifa are not carrying out any sanctioned actions. Indeed they have just been declared a terrorist group in one state and others will likely follow suit soon. I have no problems with those that oppose some opinion protesting about it.....that's a healthy exercise of democracy But antifa go far beyond that...have you been to their website? Antifa violently closed down Milo at Berkeley. If far right groups are getting out of hand then that's a matter for the law. All Antifa do is worsen the situation.
So, in your book, Antifa are worse than the Nazis? Worse than the guy who rammed a crowd of human beings with his car? Worse than the people chanting Nazi slogans? Chanting "Heil Trump!"? Edited by Ray in Houston (16 Aug 2017 3.04pm)
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| Stirlingsays 16 Aug 17 3.08pm |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
? Where did I say that? The people who use violence are the worse by far....People grouping together to represent horrible views....well they are horrible. Essentially those who take the lives of others because....opinions....These people are the problem...and the bias between the two is troubling. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Aug 2017 3.12pm)
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