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Lombardos barber 19 Jun 17 7.14pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
You are bang on which begs the question what is the point of us being in the super-rich Prem beyond seeing better players at Selhurst? Because as sure as Theresa May is a sh1te PM it's just as clear we will end up back in The Champ one day and with a highly-salaried squad and having seen a turnover approaching over a billion pounds if we survive another three seasons. With that amount of dosh I find it very difficult not to put SP under scrutiny and looking at the bigger picture where he is likely to have failed the club. Even if just £15mill per season had been ring-fenced for restructuring and refurbishment that would equate to nearly £100mill by now. Why he hasn't only he knows. Bet even the cladding is dodgy. Ridiculous comments. The money is in place for the new stand. That is what the US investment was primarily for. It is not money, it is a small matter of the law / regulation. We do not live in a banana republic and cannot just build a massive building just because we are a Premier League club without doing it correctly. Look it up... Google planning regulations... alternatively, have a look at why Liverpool (a large football club) took years and years to build their new Main Stand.
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kenbarr Jackson Heights, Queens, New York ... 19 Jun 17 7.29pm | |
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Originally posted by Lombardos barber
Ridiculous comments. The money is in place for the new stand. That is what the US investment was primarily for. It is not money, it is a small matter of the law / regulation. We do not live in a banana republic and cannot just build a massive building just because we are a Premier League club without doing it correctly. Look it up... Google planning regulations... alternatively, have a look at why Liverpool (a large football club) took years and years to build their new Main Stand. To be fair, some of why Anfield took so long was previous ownership (Hicks and Gillett) flirting with building a new stadium and their subsequent financial shenanigans. You are correct that Palace have had a long road to hoe with trying to gain approval for their plans and deal with Sainsbury's who are not all that fired interested.
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Mapletree Croydon 19 Jun 17 8.07pm | |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
That has long been my view too. He did rescue the club and put money into it but it was all fully secured so that if the project went tits up he would get his money back. His investment has made him a much richer man than he already was and to top it all he gets paid £600,000 plus per year for being chairman which to put it into a different context is about the same as 30 nurses Now there's a thought. 30 nurses would certainly keep the team happy. Ooh, those starchy uniforms
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Kermit8 Hevon 20 Jun 17 8.12am | |
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Originally posted by Lombardos barber
Ridiculous comments. The money is in place for the new stand. That is what the US investment was primarily for. It is not money, it is a small matter of the law / regulation. We do not live in a banana republic and cannot just build a massive building just because we are a Premier League club without doing it correctly. Look it up... Google planning regulations... alternatively, have a look at why Liverpool (a large football club) took years and years to build their new Main Stand. Explain then why we haven't got state of the art training facilities, a flourishing youth academy, no proper scouting network here or abroad, and why the interior of the AW is so goddamn awful. It's not just about a shiny new stand.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 20 Jun 17 8.21am | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Explain then why we haven't got state of the art training facilities, a flourishing youth academy, no proper scouting network here or abroad, and why the interior of the AW is so goddamn awful. It's not just about a shiny new stand. Funny enough I overheard this argument the other night but refrained from "Butting in" on the conversation. One of the chaps advanced the argument that whilst we receive a lot of money from the PL etc, we have to spend large amounts on players and wages just to stay in it which doesn't leave too much spare to spend on other matters.He then went on about a lower league club, Fleetwood, who have invested in good training facilities etc etc.
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Midlands Eagle 20 Jun 17 8.27am | |
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Originally posted by Willo
Funny enough I overheard this argument the other night but refrained from "Butting in" on the conversation. One of the chaps advanced the argument that whilst we receive a lot of money from the PL etc, we have to spend large amounts on players and wages just to stay in it which doesn't leave too much spare to spend on other matters. All will be revealed in the club's next set of annual accounts although unfortunately they won't be published for quite a few months yet
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 20 Jun 17 8.33am | |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
All will be revealed in the club's next set of annual accounts although unfortunately they won't be published for quite a few months yet Perhaps the club should re-introduce those question and answer sessions they used to hold in the days of Noades where supporters could address questions to Noades, Coppell etc.I recall going to a session in 'Crystals' where Coppell was grilled as to quite why he plays Pardew game on game !
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palace777 belfast 20 Jun 17 8.36am | |
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I think quite a few of us asked the same question Willo!
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kenbarr Jackson Heights, Queens, New York ... 20 Jun 17 3.24pm | |
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Originally posted by Willo
Perhaps the club should re-introduce those question and answer sessions they used to hold in the days of Noades where supporters could address questions to Noades, Coppell etc.I recall going to a session in 'Crystals' where Coppell was grilled as to quite why he plays Pardew game on game ! I remember one of those being right before the Cup Semi in 1990. THe morning after that meeting I put 20 quid down on Palace to beat the scousers (final result) and Super Al to score the winner. Nice little payday that. Thanks to all the Palace/Pardew doubters that night. As for our present ownership, I also remember a rather vocal group wanting Noades out. That worked very well didn't it! I don't think Mr. Parish and company are beyond criticism but I look at their overall record, both the original consortium and the present ownership structure, and see a lot more positive than negative. I do wish this manager appointment saga would end soon and that we heard a little more about the progress of the search than we have had. Unfortunately, what we do get is a lot of media speculation and nothing more.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 20 Jun 17 3.26pm | |
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Originally posted by kenbarr
I remember one of those being right before the Cup Semi in 1990. THe morning after that meeting I put 20 quid down on Palace to beat the scousers (final result) and Super Al to score the winner. Nice little payday that. Thanks to all the Palace/Pardew doubters that night. As for our present ownership, I also remember a rather vocal group wanting Noades out. That worked very well didn't it! I don't think Mr. Parish and company are beyond criticism but I look at their overall record, both the original consortium and the present ownership structure, and see a lot more positive than negative. I do wish this manager appointment saga would end soon and that we heard a little more about the progress of the search than we have had. Unfortunately, what we do get is a lot of media speculation and nothing more. I believe I spoke to you at one of these events in Crystals ? Or maybe at a POTY function ?
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Aray South London 20 Jun 17 10.50pm | |
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Originally posted by bexleydave
That really is the most exhausted of tired old clichés. Seven years and it would appear that very little has been learned. It isn't necessary to drag every decision out to the nth degree. Top management is about being able to see the wood for the trees, to make a decision and then go for it and make it happen. We may well have had "the best short-list ever", but I suspect that we've spent so long navel gazing over it that we're going to end up exactly where we started, with Dyche who, with the best will in the world, is hardly an inspiring choice. Everyone makes mistakes and I bet he has made his fair share, especially in the earlier days of his chairmanship. And look - he's gonna make more because he's human. But I personally feel that he has the club's interests and so his mistakes are forgivable. I just don't get your perspective as there are few guarantees in this world. Do you make perfect decisions with 20/20 foresight? Do you anyone who does? I hired someone last May loads of experience very smart but it did t work out and he didn't last a year. All hires are a gamble. You think Man City thought they'd scrape third place with Pep in charge? Like you I'm tired of clicking on Twitter and the like for news on our new manager but I'm also looking forward to our fifth season in the top flight. What are you looking forward to?
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Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 21 Jun 17 2.14am | |
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Originally posted by Aray
Everyone makes mistakes and I bet he has made his fair share, especially in the earlier days of his chairmanship. And look - he's gonna make more because he's human. But I personally feel that he has the club's interests and so his mistakes are forgivable. I just don't get your perspective as there are few guarantees in this world. Do you make perfect decisions with 20/20 foresight? Do you anyone who does? I hired someone last May loads of experience very smart but it did t work out and he didn't last a year. All hires are a gamble. You think Man City thought they'd scrape third place with Pep in charge? Like you I'm tired of clicking on Twitter and the like for news on our new manager but I'm also looking forward to our fifth season in the top flight. What are you looking forward to? Don't listen to t***ty bollocks.
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