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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 05 Sep 16 8.44pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

A Swiss institute looking at this windows transfers has concluded that Everton massively over-paid for the 'asset' Bolasie to the tune of 19 millions.

He's overpriced by 30% or a third which is what most Prem players are over priced by this Summer since the new thing money. It's like saying a house is over priced after the market has risen. They have all risen so not over priced.

 


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Flash Flag Lampeter 05 Sep 16 8.56pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

He's overpriced by 30% or a third which is what most Prem players are over priced by this Summer since the new thing money. It's like saying a house is over priced after the market has risen. They have all risen so not over priced.

Yes, but house prices are variable and some folk have got burnt fingers. I appreciate your view, Rudi, but still feel this was a tremendous bit of business for us however sad it was to lose Yala.

 

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sprites Flag Auckland 05 Sep 16 9.45pm Send a Private Message to sprites Add sprites as a friend

Originally posted by Flash

Yes, but house prices are variable and some folk have got burnt fingers. I appreciate your view, Rudi, but still feel this was a tremendous bit of business for us however sad it was to lose Yala.


We massively did one over on Everton here. It's not even arguable for me. To get $27 mil for a player worth probably 12-15 was incredible.

 

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Percy of Peckham Flag Eton Mess 05 Sep 16 11.42pm Send a Private Message to Percy of Peckham Add Percy of Peckham as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

He's overpriced by 30% or a third which is what most Prem players are over priced by this Summer since the new thing money. It's like saying a house is over priced after the market has risen. They have all risen so not over priced.

I think you'll find it's more like +180% based on the figures quoted.

However, it's interesting that Everton traded in John Stones at well over his "book value" to fund Bolasie but we paid proportionally less over the odds for Benteke. Liverpool wanted to recover what they paid out for him last year.

All in all, very shrewd business by Parish and co. Well done!!!

 


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Flash Flag Lampeter 05 Sep 16 11.47pm

Originally posted by Percy of Peckham

I think you'll find it's more like +180% based on the figures quoted.

However, it's interesting that Everton traded in John Stones at well over his "book value" to fund Bolasie but we paid proportionally less over the odds for Benteke. Liverpool wanted to recover what they paid out for him last year.

All in all, very shrewd business by Parish and co. Well done!!!

Absolutely. A reason to be be proud of our club, I think.

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 05 Sep 16 11.50pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Percy of Peckham

I think you'll find it's more like +180% based on the figures quoted.

However, it's interesting that Everton traded in John Stones at well over his "book value" to fund Bolasie but we paid proportionally less over the odds for Benteke. Liverpool wanted to recover what they paid out for him last year.

All in all, very shrewd business by Parish and co. Well done!!!

I know how to calculate thanks. I'm talking about the transfers of said players are 30% higher than valuations last summer and that is the case regarding Stones and Bolasie. Maybe a bit more with Bolasie as some were saying they'd accept £15 mil and not the £18-£20mil he was valued at. In the case of Benteke you can assume his value dropped due to failure at that level but then LFC demand it back up to that price due to tv money inflation in the market.

 


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Percy of Peckham Flag Eton Mess 05 Sep 16 11.56pm Send a Private Message to Percy of Peckham Add Percy of Peckham as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I know how to calculate thanks. I'm talking about the transfers of said players are 30% higher than valuations last summer and that is the case regarding Stones and Bolasie. Maybe a bit more with Bolasie as some were saying they'd accept £15 mil and not the £18-£20mil he was valued at. In the case of Benteke you can assume his value dropped due to failure at that level but then LFC demand it back up to that price due to tv money inflation in the market.

I'm taking face value of the figures available rather than theorising but I take your point. The outcome is, however, the same. A good piece of business!

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 06 Sep 16 12.02am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Percy of Peckham

I'm taking face value of the figures available rather than theorising but I take your point. The outcome is, however, the same. A good piece of business!

Good business yes but £10 mil? They've got that very wrong. And their figures are just theory anyway. They haven't included:

Previous interest and speculation
Club valuation
TV money inflation
All the players sold for £10mil before or after tv money I doubt.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (06 Sep 2016 12.04am)

 


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Flash Flag Lampeter 06 Sep 16 12.03am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I know how to calculate thanks. I'm talking about the transfers of said players are 30% higher than valuations last summer and that is the case regarding Stones and Bolasie. Maybe a bit more with Bolasie as some were saying they'd accept £15 mil and not the £18-£20mil he was valued at. In the case of Benteke you can assume his value dropped due to failure at that level but then LFC demand it back up to that price due to tv money inflation in the market.

Sounds like we're singing from the same song sheet here unless I'm mistaken.
Great business from the board. We buy Benteke for mega bucks largely paid for by selling Bolasie for mega bucks. Bolasie income well above his value. Benteke price maybe a bit above his value. Time will tell. That's how I see it. Fantastic value imho.

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 06 Sep 16 12.07am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Flash

Sounds like we're singing from the same song sheet here unless I'm mistaken.
Great business from the board. We buy Benteke for mega bucks largely paid for by selling Bolasie for mega bucks. Bolasie income well above his value. Benteke price maybe a bit above his value. Time will tell. That's how I see it. Fantastic value imho.

Main thing is we haven't been done or bought players at high cost with no resale value. You could say Everton have but he'll probably do well there. Same with Benteke here. Maybe Bolasie has been inflated by a bit more than 30% but not that much.

 


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Flash Flag Lampeter 06 Sep 16 12.24am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Main thing is we haven't been done or bought players at high cost with no resale value. You could say Everton have but he'll probably do well there. Same with Benteke here. Maybe Bolasie has been inflated by a bit more than 30% but not that much.[/quote
Yes - I'll go along with that Rudi. I certainly wish Yala well at Everton. But it's been a brilliant window for us, I feel. Much sadness as big names and characters leave, but also much hope as great potential arrives. As SP has delivered (again), all I ask is for AP to be allowed the time to deliver. The future looks good to me.

 

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rossboss29 Flag Portsmouth 06 Sep 16 7.32am Send a Private Message to rossboss29 Add rossboss29 as a friend

Its al bull. That some place has zaha and ibe at over 30 mill on their website.

 

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