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Effects of Austerity Cuts part 58
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nickgusset  Shizzlehurst 22 Oct 17 6.54pm |
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If austerity is about all in it together, can someone please explain why the disparity between highest and lowest wage has grown so much.
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Attachment: | hedgehog50 Croydon 22 Oct 17 8.36pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
If austerity is about all in it together, can someone please explain why the disparity between highest and lowest wage has grown so much. Perhaps the higher earners are working harder?
We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell] |
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  Hrolf The Ganger 22 Oct 17 9.37pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Perhaps the higher earners are working harder? The one whining about is certainly isn't. He spends most of his life on here.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 22 Oct 17 9.49pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
The one whining about is certainly isn't. He spends most of his life on here. And you are always one step behind.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 22 Oct 17 10.20pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
And you are always one step behind. Shhhh!
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 22 Oct 17 10.28pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Shhhh!
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 18 Nov 17 1.49am |
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Austerity responsible for 120k excess deaths in England? The BMJ seem to have come to that conclusion.
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| Midlands Eagle 18 Nov 17 7.39am |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Austerity responsible for 120k excess deaths in England? The BMJ seem to have come to that conclusion. Then they could well be wrong. It could possibly be true that there is an element of the reduction of nurse numbers being part of the reason but that doesn't necessarily mean that the reduction was down to austerity. The RCN has been trying for years to get nursing "upgraded" and have deliberately made it more and more diffioult for new entrants to be accepted without much higher educational qualifications. This has meant that nursing is now populated by people who can pass exams at the expense of people who have a true vocation to help people. My wife is a staff nurse and she tells me that whilst some leave the profession to earn higher wages more seem to leave because they don't like the job and because the hospital don't treat them too well. She was 15 years at one hospital but I finally persuaded her to leave because although she was entitled to seven weeks holiday a year the nurse manager didn't seem to like her actually taking them and kept begging her to take her holidays during term time. She moved to another hospital where she liked the shift pattern more as she would be working three or four 12 hour shifts a week and could take her holidays when she wanted (within reason)but after a few months she ended up working more and more night shifts. No nurse is allowed to take more than two weeks holiday at a time unless you are Indian or pakistani when it seems that you are allowed to take three weeks due to all the travelling involved. A friend of my wife's who is white asked for three weeks off to visit family in New Zealand but was told she can't as rules is rules. Wifey doesn't need to work as I earn enough but she is one of the dedicated ones - but those are declining and it isn't to do with austerity
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| Hrolf The Ganger 18 Nov 17 10.40am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Then they could well be wrong. It could possibly be true that there is an element of the reduction of nurse numbers being part of the reason but that doesn't necessarily mean that the reduction was down to austerity. The RCN has been trying for years to get nursing "upgraded" and have deliberately made it more and more diffioult for new entrants to be accepted without much higher educational qualifications. This has meant that nursing is now populated by people who can pass exams at the expense of people who have a true vocation to help people. My wife is a staff nurse and she tells me that whilst some leave the profession to earn higher wages more seem to leave because they don't like the job and because the hospital don't treat them too well. She was 15 years at one hospital but I finally persuaded her to leave because although she was entitled to seven weeks holiday a year the nurse manager didn't seem to like her actually taking them and kept begging her to take her holidays during term time. She moved to another hospital where she liked the shift pattern more as she would be working three or four 12 hour shifts a week and could take her holidays when she wanted (within reason)but after a few months she ended up working more and more night shifts. No nurse is allowed to take more than two weeks holiday at a time unless you are Indian or pakistani when it seems that you are allowed to take three weeks due to all the travelling involved. A friend of my wife's who is white asked for three weeks off to visit family in New Zealand but was told she can't as rules is rules. Wifey doesn't need to work as I earn enough but she is one of the dedicated ones - but those are declining and it isn't to do with austerity The majority of people can't take more than two weeks holiday under normal circumstances.
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johnno42000  18 Nov 17 11.23am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
The majority of people can't take more than two weeks holiday under normal circumstances. I'm in the NHS and can take 3 weeks at a time..but that is only because it takes me that long to say the Welsh place names at the ticket office
'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more' |
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| Midlands Eagle 18 Nov 17 11.47am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
The majority of people can't take more than two weeks holiday under normal circumstances. No resentment at all. Each hospital has quite a few prayer rooms where Muslim nurses and doctors can slope off for prayers whilst all other religions have to keep working. According to wifey "prayers" looks a lot like sitting around drinking coffee. No resentment there either
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| Hrolf The Ganger 18 Nov 17 2.01pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
No resentment at all. Each hospital has quite a few prayer rooms where Muslim nurses and doctors can slope off for prayers whilst all other religions have to keep working. According to wifey "prayers" looks a lot like sitting around drinking coffee. No resentment there either I really don't see how you can have different rules for different nationalities. Seems prejudicial to Brits to me. Even religious 'needs' grate for me. It just encourages wooly headed thinking. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (18 Nov 2017 2.01pm)
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