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W12 14 Nov 19 8.37pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger 90%? You have The Guardian, Mirror, Independent and Morning Star for starters, all on the left. The influence of the written press is dwarfed by the television media which is almost exclusively left wing. Also the Times and the Observer. Only the Telegraph, Mail and Sun are at all right in my opinion although I haven’t looked at the latter in years. Independent is now very far left btw (much like the Guardian)
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W12 14 Nov 19 8.37pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

90%?
You have The Guardian, Mirror, Independent and Morning Star for starters, all on the left.
The influence of the written press is dwarfed by the television media which is almost exclusively left wing.

Also the Times and the Observer.

Only the Telegraph, Mail and Sun are at all right in my opinion although I haven’t looked at the latter in years. Independent is now very far left btw (much like the Guardian)

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Stirlingsays 14 Nov 19 11.29pm
Originally posted by W12 Also the Times and the Observer. Only the Telegraph, Mail and Sun are at all right in my opinion although I haven’t looked at the latter in years. Independent is now very far left btw (much like the Guardian) Of those only the Telegraph has any pretension to proper journalism though....something that is more often found behind a paywall....The Spectator also being an obvious one. Spiked, I suppose, is doing quite well as a free online media force on the right.....but it's mostly the neo liberal right of course. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Nov 2019 11.30pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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14 Nov 19 11.29pm

Originally posted by W12

Also the Times and the Observer.

Only the Telegraph, Mail and Sun are at all right in my opinion although I haven’t looked at the latter in years. Independent is now very far left btw (much like the Guardian)

Of those only the Telegraph has any pretension to proper journalism though....something that is more often found behind a paywall....The Spectator also being an obvious one.

Spiked, I suppose, is doing quite well as a free online media force on the right.....but it's mostly the neo liberal right of course.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Nov 2019 11.30pm)

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steeleye20 Croydon 15 Nov 19 1.39pm
What should happen next: • Quietly revoke Article 50 • Tell Brexiters we left with no deal • Send them blue passport covers • Give them special long queues at airports/ports • Charge them for roaming calls/data • Give them food and medicine ration books * Send each brexiter a union jack sticker * HMRC to advise each brexiter of a 20% income tax increase to pay for their indulgence. • Get on with life What about our house garden pets children being flooded? Once 'brexit is done' we can do all that rigmarole.
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Croydon 15 Nov 19 1.39pm

What should happen next:

• Quietly revoke Article 50
• Tell Brexiters we left with no deal
• Send them blue passport covers
• Give them special long queues at airports/ports
• Charge them for roaming calls/data
• Give them food and medicine ration books
* Send each brexiter a union jack sticker
* HMRC to advise each brexiter of a 20% income tax increase to pay for their indulgence.

• Get on with life

What about our house garden pets children being flooded?

Once 'brexit is done' we can do all that rigmarole.

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W12 15 Nov 19 2.20pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Of those only the Telegraph has any pretension to proper journalism though....something that is more often found behind a paywall....The Spectator also being an obvious one. Spiked, I suppose, is doing quite well as a free online media force on the right.....but it's mostly the neo liberal right of course. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Nov 2019 11.30pm) Spiked is unfortuntely not right wing although they have right wing contributors, It's the voice of traditional labour if anything (e.g. from when they actually gave a s*** about the native working class). They are very open about that to be fair. They still believe the NHS is a sacred cow for example and still bang on about social justice while complaining about free speech. Agree about the Telegraph and the Spectator although the latter is obviously much better. They have proper conservatives like Dellingpole. Edited by W12 (15 Nov 2019 2.21pm)
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W12 15 Nov 19 2.20pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Of those only the Telegraph has any pretension to proper journalism though....something that is more often found behind a paywall....The Spectator also being an obvious one.

Spiked, I suppose, is doing quite well as a free online media force on the right.....but it's mostly the neo liberal right of course.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Nov 2019 11.30pm)

Spiked is unfortuntely not right wing although they have right wing contributors, It's the voice of traditional labour if anything (e.g. from when they actually gave a s*** about the native working class). They are very open about that to be fair. They still believe the NHS is a sacred cow for example and still bang on about social justice while complaining about free speech.

Agree about the Telegraph and the Spectator although the latter is obviously much better. They have proper conservatives like Dellingpole.

Edited by W12 (15 Nov 2019 2.21pm)

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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 15 Nov 19 2.20pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 What should happen next: • Quietly revoke Article 50 • Tell Brexiters we left with no deal • Send them blue passport covers • Give them special long queues at airports/ports • Charge them for roaming calls/data • Give them food and medicine ration books * Send each brexiter a union jack sticker * HMRC to advise each brexiter of a 20% income tax increase to pay for their indulgence. • Get on with life What about our house garden pets children being flooded? Once 'brexit is done' we can do all that rigmarole. You really do live in your own bubble and need to get back into the real world. You must stay awake at night dreaming up all this utter rubbish you post on here !!! Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.
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PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 15 Nov 19 2.20pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

What should happen next:

• Get on with life

What about our house garden pets children being flooded?

Once 'brexit is done' we can do all that rigmarole.

You really do live in your own bubble and need to get back into the real world.
You must stay awake at night dreaming up all this utter rubbish you post on here !!!

Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

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W12 15 Nov 19 2.24pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 What should happen next: • Quietly revoke Article 50 • Tell Brexiters we left with no deal • Send them blue passport covers • Give them special long queues at airports/ports • Charge them for roaming calls/data • Give them food and medicine ration books * Send each brexiter a union jack sticker * HMRC to advise each brexiter of a 20% income tax increase to pay for their indulgence. • Get on with life What about our house garden pets children being flooded? Once 'brexit is done' we can do all that rigmarole. How about you piss off to your beloved EU empire. Better do it now before Greta closes all the airports.
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W12 15 Nov 19 2.24pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

What should happen next:

• Get on with life

What about our house garden pets children being flooded?

Once 'brexit is done' we can do all that rigmarole.

How about you piss off to your beloved EU empire. Better do it now before Greta closes all the airports.

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Stirlingsays 15 Nov 19 2.42pm
Originally posted by W12 Spiked is unfortuntely not right wing although they have right wing contributors, It's the voice of traditional labour if anything (e.g. from when they actually gave a s*** about the native working class). They are very open about that to be fair. They still believe the NHS is a sacred cow for example and still bang on about social justice while complaining about free speech. Agree about the Telegraph and the Spectator although the latter is obviously much better. They have proper conservatives like Dellingpole. Edited by W12 (15 Nov 2019 2.21pm) Yep, in the current political environment Spiked are probably considered more right wing than they actually are. There again on a free speech platform I'm fine with that. Dellingpole is excellent and I'll just mention that the Iconoclast's magazine is a right wing 'must have'....well for social conservatives anyway. Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Nov 2019 2.42pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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15 Nov 19 2.42pm

Originally posted by W12

Agree about the Telegraph and the Spectator although the latter is obviously much better. They have proper conservatives like Dellingpole.

Edited by W12 (15 Nov 2019 2.21pm)

Yep, in the current political environment Spiked are probably considered more right wing than they actually are. There again on a free speech platform I'm fine with that.

Dellingpole is excellent and I'll just mention that the Iconoclast's magazine is a right wing 'must have'....well for social conservatives anyway.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Nov 2019 2.42pm)

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Stirlingsays 15 Nov 19 2.45pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 What should happen next: • Quietly revoke Article 50 • Tell Brexiters we left with no deal • Send them blue passport covers • Give them special long queues at airports/ports • Charge them for roaming calls/data • Give them food and medicine ration books * Send each brexiter a union jack sticker * HMRC to advise each brexiter of a 20% income tax increase to pay for their indulgence. • Get on with life What about our house garden pets children being flooded? Once 'brexit is done' we can do all that rigmarole. You're quite mad but respect for coming on...even though I'm constantly having a go at you......Anyway it seems like your lefty mates have run off on mass again. And it isn't even snowing yet....but I suppose it's always snowflake weather in lefty land. Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Nov 2019 2.48pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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15 Nov 19 2.45pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

What should happen next:

• Get on with life

What about our house garden pets children being flooded?

Once 'brexit is done' we can do all that rigmarole.

You're quite mad but respect for coming on...even though I'm constantly having a go at you......Anyway it seems like your lefty mates have run off on mass again.

And it isn't even snowing yet....but I suppose it's always snowflake weather in lefty land.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Nov 2019 2.48pm)

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Hrolf The Ganger 15 Nov 19 3.15pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays You're quite mad but respect for coming on...even though I'm constantly having a go at you......Anyway it seems like your lefty mates have run off on mass again. And it isn't even snowing yet....but I suppose it's always snowflake weather in lefty land. Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Nov 2019 2.48pm) If my eyes weren't deceiving me, Corbyn has snowflakes falling at his speech earlier. Santa Corbyn will deliver nothing and steal you mince pies.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You're quite mad but respect for coming on...even though I'm constantly having a go at you......Anyway it seems like your lefty mates have run off on mass again.

And it isn't even snowing yet....but I suppose it's always snowflake weather in lefty land.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Nov 2019 2.48pm)

If my eyes weren't deceiving me, Corbyn has snowflakes falling at his speech earlier.
Santa Corbyn will deliver nothing and steal you mince pies.

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steeleye20 Croydon 15 Nov 19 3.29pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger If my eyes weren't deceiving me, Corbyn has snowflakes falling at his speech earlier. Santa Corbyn will deliver nothing and steal you mince pies. You are getting it, good to see you are listening to Jeremy's speeches.
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Croydon 15 Nov 19 3.29pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

If my eyes weren't deceiving me, Corbyn has snowflakes falling at his speech earlier.
Santa Corbyn will deliver nothing and steal you mince pies.

You are getting it, good to see you are listening to Jeremy's speeches.

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Stirlingsays 15 Nov 19 3.34pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger If my eyes weren't deceiving me, Corbyn has snowflakes falling at his speech earlier. Santa Corbyn will deliver nothing and steal you mince pies. Corbyn will certainly require a miracle to win. I wonder if he nationalises all his presents and tells the family that they all partly own them. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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15 Nov 19 3.34pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

If my eyes weren't deceiving me, Corbyn has snowflakes falling at his speech earlier.
Santa Corbyn will deliver nothing and steal you mince pies.

Corbyn will certainly require a miracle to win.

I wonder if he nationalises all his presents and tells the family that they all partly own them.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Hrolf The Ganger 15 Nov 19 3.45pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Corbyn will certainly require a miracle to win. I wonder if he nationalises all his presents and tells the family that they all partly own them. The gifts will be purchased by a civil service elf at top dollar and when you open them, they will be badly made, have no batteries and then you will find out later that they were paid for by your credit card.
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Hrolf The Ganger

15 Nov 19 3.45pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Corbyn will certainly require a miracle to win.

I wonder if he nationalises all his presents and tells the family that they all partly own them.

The gifts will be purchased by a civil service elf at top dollar and when you open them, they will be badly made, have no batteries and then you will find out later that they were paid for by your credit card.

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