Typical in democratic EU

BBC News - General election 2019: Don't give up on stopping Brexit - Tusk
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LOL. Like that would ever happen. The whole point of Labours supposed '2nd' referendum is that it would essentially be nothing more than us having to rubber stamp 'Remain' given that the only other option will be a horrendous Leave deal that they will not be backing anyway. Nothing more than an attempt to protect their own vanity about masquerading as democrats.

Personally I welcome the likes of Tusk and co letting us know what they think. Because it works. Truly helps the Leave cause.

When this entire s*** show is done and dusted I would love to be able to sit down with some ardent Remainers and ask them about their collective thought processes. Try and work out how they intended to persuade people who voted Leave in 2016 to change their minds by A: heaping insult upon insult upon them and B: how the intervention of the very people who drove over 17.4 million people to vote leave telling us all how silly we were helps anything?

Remainers put great store in the fact that they are more likely to be University Graduates and so on yet their entire campaign to reverse the 2016 result has been so utterly s***e that you have to question just how intelligent they actually are. Thick as Pig s*** is my less than biased opinion but I am happy to be corrected.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

And another from the BBC a film review about the new Emilia Clarke Romcom written by my old mate Emma Thompson.

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I saw a long trailer for this at the cinema and groaned two pretty people, Christmas and George Michael songs talk about generic. What I didn't know is that Emma throws in some stuff about those awful racist Brexit people, they just can't leave it alone.

In fairness to the BBC along with the puff they did include an alternate view.

"Last Christmas is the worst festive film I have ever seen," wrote Dan Wootton in The Sun. "It's a woke, remoaning, overly politically correct mess of a movie that manages to suck every inch of fun, joy and togetherness out of the season where we should be jolly."

Just call me The Grinch.

Edited by Badger11 (14 Nov 2019 9.43am)

One more point

This is fundamentally the issue and the Tories have managed to do the best bait and switch to get the working class voting for them, even though it was inevitable that increased competition on labour, reducing the price of labour was the goal. And I'm not saying Labour are the solution always, but a step back needs to be made and a realisation that life isn't linear.

If you vote Labour, at least Corbyn's Labour, you're going to get more workers rights, a higher union representation, increases in wages, but you will also get higher inflation, the unions having too much power.

If you vote conservative, it's the opposite and the role of the electorate is to understand and realise when you need each one.

Not sure about that bit. I think Corbyn is sincere in wanting to hep the lower pay but all the while Labour have an open door immigration policy they are in conflict with each other. Basic supply and demand.

One more point

He wants to raise the minimum wage but further open borders. Can you see how this is going to further destroy opportunity in this country? (especially for the working classes)