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Stirlingsays Flag 26 Nov 20 9.38am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Agreed All best wishes Wissie.
Although tbf Tom was not to know about that but hopefully end of discussion, take care

Certainly.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 26 Nov 20 10.07am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You suffer from prostate cancer?

I wasn't aware and you have my genuine condolences on that.

The cut and thrust of political forums seems a little puerile compared to an issue like that.

In this circumstance I will respect your request not to muck about.


Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Nov 2020 11.53pm)

Yes I do. So thanks.

And although this has even less to do with the US election than the previous subject can I urge every man to take this seriously. If you find yourself having to pee several times during the night, or your flow is slow, go get a PSA check. It's simple, quick and done early can save your life. In fact go and ask anyway! They don't yet do them as a routine yet but that will happen.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (26 Nov 2020 10.16am)

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 26 Nov 20 10.09am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Agreed All best wishes Wissie.
Although tbf Tom was not to know about that but hopefully end of discussion, take care

Thanks. No he wasn't.

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 26 Nov 20 11.05am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

All the best wissie.
Your positive outlook albeit left leaning will I'm sure aid your process of getting through this.

 

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matthau Flag South Croydon 26 Nov 20 11.24am Send a Private Message to matthau Add matthau as a friend

Think illl keep my bet

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 26 Nov 20 11.29am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

All the best wissie.
Your positive outlook albeit left leaning will I'm sure aid your process of getting through this.

Thanks. I've always aimed to be the first man in history to reach 150. I also planned my death at that time. Which was to be shot by a jealous husband.

I have had to reluctantly revise that down a little. It's now 125 and dying in bed as a consequence of being asphyxiated between two enthusiastic women. One leaning to the left, the other to the right. As always I am in the middle.

 


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Lombardinho Flag London 26 Nov 20 11.46am Send a Private Message to Lombardinho Add Lombardinho as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Those who harbour ideas that the republicans can come back and win in 2024 or later aren't being realistic.

Trump pandered to minority demographics but only moved the needle a little. People talk about the Hispanic vote but really they mean the Cubans, who are traditional and dislike socialism for historical reasons. The stark reality are that demographics will make a republican presidency impossible.

The republicans would have to do a Tory number and move significantly to the left....where like the British Tories they are only conservative in name only.

Here is why....If Biden takes over his administration is going to push for amnesty to just about all illegals, which would probably result in over ten million new voters come the next election.....Conservatism has nothing to offer these groups....it basically closes the argument.

The only way conservatism survives long term in the US is with separation.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Nov 2020 9.33am)

I applaud your ability to think outside the box in attempting to find a solution here, Stirling.
However, I think you're barking up the wrong tree with your separation idea.
What about those of us who believe we're all equal regardless of colour, creed or political persuasion (if indeed politics play any significant part in the world we live in) ? Where do we fit in?

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 26 Nov 20 12.36pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Lombardinho

I applaud your ability to think outside the box in attempting to find a solution here, Stirling.
However, I think you're barking up the wrong tree with your separation idea.
What about those of us who believe we're all equal regardless of colour, creed or political persuasion (if indeed politics play any significant part in the world we live in) ? Where do we fit in?

The easy answer would be to say with the Democrats.

However, I do understand the concern you raise. I think the separation, if and when it comes, will be much more political in nature and along non reconcilable differences on several amendments....rejection of socialism and social liberalism.

Essentially unless they do separate I can't see how conservatism survives in the US. Still, I agree....this wouldn't be easy nor pleasant and while I think it's inevitable in some form, I could be wrong of course.

In terms of race, even most of the dissident right in the US, which can be far closer to the knuckle don't politically reject the Candice Owens or Thomas Sowells of the world....if you are a traditionalist and/so social conservative your race isn't going to factor into a split....pretty much the same with your creed, though obviously the requirement to be pro Christian or at least culturally accepting of it will matter.



Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Nov 2020 12.39pm)

 


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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 26 Nov 20 1.17pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

I just want to say to Wisbech - all the best with the illness. Fingers crossed you will recover. We may not always agree, but we can agree with the camaraderie of Palace fans. We need all the fans we can get!

 


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Lombardinho Flag London 26 Nov 20 1.19pm Send a Private Message to Lombardinho Add Lombardinho as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The easy answer would be to say with the Democrats.

However, I do understand the concern you raise. I think the separation, if and when it comes, will be much more political in nature and along non reconcilable differences on several amendments....rejection of socialism and social liberalism.

Essentially unless they do separate I can't see how conservatism survives in the US. Still, I agree....this wouldn't be easy nor pleasant and while I think it's inevitable in some form, I could be wrong of course.

In terms of race, even most of the dissident right in the US, which can be far closer to the knuckle don't politically reject the Candice Owens or Thomas Sowells of the world....if you are a traditionalist and/so social conservative your race isn't going to factor into a split....pretty much the same with your creed, though obviously the requirement to be pro Christian or at least culturally accepting of it will matter.



Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Nov 2020 12.39pm)

I'm aware that politics play an important role in helping certain individuals express themselves (especially on these boards!) but I'm convinced in the not too distant future, these people will see the world differently.
Now more than ever, the crumbling of it all is becoming more and more apparent.
Instead of politicians, I see tyrants on both sides.
Trump-haters see him as the tyrant but I must point out that he isn't a politician and that isn't his role.
It's the system that's broken.
World leaders will soon be a thing of the past, I reckon.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 26 Nov 20 1.24pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Lombardinho

I'm aware that politics play an important role in helping certain individuals express themselves (especially on these boards!) but I'm convinced in the not too distant future, these people will see the world differently.
Now more than ever, the crumbling of it all is becoming more and more apparent.
Instead of politicians, I see tyrants on both sides.
Trump-haters see him as the tyrant but I must point out that he isn't a politician and that isn't his role.
It's the system that's broken.
World leaders will soon be a thing of the past, I reckon.

Sounds interesting.

Do you think it's going to be a form of corpocracy? (some would argue it partly is already)

The corporation idea is an extension of how globalism has been moving for decades now....speeded up by social media.

However, while SW19 had some interesting thoughts and links on this I think it's a very 'European' concept that will have issues elsewhere on the planet.

Even here the corporations are going to be challenged by technological developments such as 3D printing and automation which can also be used to work against them.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Nov 2020 1.26pm)

 


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Lombardinho Flag London 26 Nov 20 1.39pm Send a Private Message to Lombardinho Add Lombardinho as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Sounds interesting.

Do you think it's going to be a form of corpocracy? (some would argue it partly is already)

The corporation idea is an extension of how globalism has been moving for decades now....speeded up by social media.

However, while SW19 had some interesting thoughts and links on this I think it's a very 'European' concept that will have issues elsewhere on the planet.

Even here the corporations are going to be challenged by technological developments such as 3D printing and automation which can also be used to work against them.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Nov 2020 1.26pm)

I think that in the future it'll be impossible for technology such as the advancements you mention, to go rogue and go against us.
Family and community will be making the decisions. In other words, how we live our lives will be up to us...we the people.

 

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