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Teddy Eagle 29 Oct 19 11.42pm | |
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Originally posted by Eustace H. Plimsoll
That has to be the clincher hasn't it? Something unquestionably sits instinctively slightly uncomfortably with me about the idea of 16-years-olds having enough understanding - as a (unfairly?) generalised group - to sensibly discern whom to vote for, but that's not good enough, is it? If we're going to take money from someone then we damn well better give them a say on how it's spent. If we don't like that then leave their money alone. Also, we've all encountered plenty of 18+ unutterable bellends who are entitled to vote and there's scant complaint there. (Furthermore, what about all the apparently incapable geriatrics that worry so many about their ability to drive? - should they be allowed to vote? If their faculties are so shot, I mean.) I reckon we need simply to suck it up and take it upon ourselves to try to encourage 16 and 17-year-olds to engage and take a comprehensive interest in current affairs and politics. (Inasmuch as people do generally, anyhow.) Either that or we all have to sit a test beforehand in order to try to achieve a passing grade entitling a vote. (That could be rather fun actually. If only to inspire an exciting fresh set of conspiracy theories.) What's the war-fighting age, by the way? (That's always raised.) 16? If so, then there's no argument, surely. (And if it's 18 then maybe 16-year-olds should only be allowed to vote if they absolutely promise to shoot at a nasty foreign-looking type on their way to the polling booth?) It’s 18 to go into battle although enough of them seem to get enough combat experience without joining the army.
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dannyboy1978 30 Oct 19 6.11am | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
You can get a paper round at 13 and for those saying if they pay tax at 16 they should vote, well what % work at 16? Tiny amount because they are to young and want to stay in education TO LEARN, yes learn because they are kids still educating their selves. Edited by dannyboy1978 (30 Oct 2019 6.22am)
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Midlands Eagle 30 Oct 19 6.46am | |
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This is going to be a very interesting election with unusual voting patterns. Who will Northern Labour leavers vote for and will Conservative voters whose MPs have continually blocked Brexit and effectively messed up parliament and what will Anna Soubry do after she's voted out of the House of Commons
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steeleye20 Croydon 30 Oct 19 9.15am | |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
This is going to be a very interesting election with unusual voting patterns. Who will Northern Labour leavers vote for and will Conservative voters whose MPs have continually blocked Brexit and effectively messed up parliament and what will Anna Soubry do after she's voted out of the House of Commons You are far too assumptive, the public may be thinking entirely differently. A remain parliament just as likely and an end to brexit altogether.
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Teddy Eagle 30 Oct 19 9.37am | |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
You can get a paper round at 13 and for those saying if they pay tax at 16 they should vote, well what % work at 16? Tiny amount because they are to young and want to stay in education TO LEARN, yes learn because they are kids still educating their selves. Edited by dannyboy1978 (30 Oct 2019 6.22am) Remoaner? Really? I’m not in favour of the idea but it does seem unfair that you can be at work and not get a vote while students do.
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steeleye20 Croydon 30 Oct 19 10.21am | |
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Brexit deal means ‘£70bn hit to UK by 2029' Brexit no deal wipes 6% of incomes.
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dannyboy1978 30 Oct 19 10.22am | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Remoaner? Really? I’m not in favour of the idea but it does seem unfair that you can be at work and not get a vote while students do. Life is un fair, if you can vote at 16 why can't you drive at 16?
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DANGERCLOSE London 30 Oct 19 10.22am | |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
You can get a paper round at 13 and for those saying if they pay tax at 16 they should vote, well what % work at 16? Tiny amount because they are to young and want to stay in education TO LEARN, yes learn because they are kids still educating their selves. Edited by dannyboy1978 (30 Oct 2019 6.22am) Agreed
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DANGERCLOSE London 30 Oct 19 10.25am | |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
This is going to be a very interesting election with unusual voting patterns. Who will Northern Labour leavers vote for and will Conservative voters whose MPs have continually blocked Brexit and effectively messed up parliament and what will Anna Soubry do after she's voted out of the House of Commons Bye Bye Anna Soubry useless and clueless mp
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steeleye20 Croydon 30 Oct 19 10.30am | |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
You can get a paper round at 13 and for those saying if they pay tax at 16 they should vote, well what % work at 16? Tiny amount because they are to young and want to stay in education TO LEARN, yes learn because they are kids still educating their selves. Edited by dannyboy1978 (30 Oct 2019 6.22am) I was out to work at 16 and paying tax so were many of my schoolmates. I can't think of any reason why they should not vote, why don't they even things up by barring the vote to 75 years old plus. There are no fools like elderly fools, bring on the young.
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Teddy Eagle 30 Oct 19 10.33am | |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
Life is un fair, if you can vote at 16 why can't you drive at 16? I’m not disagreeing with you but it seems odd that a 16 year old can be deemed responsible enough to be a parent but not to put an X on a piece of paper or see a film at the pictures.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 30 Oct 19 10.35am | |
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Originally posted by W12
We have a culture that no longer values the military and a youth that can no longer handle even a pub fight. And policemen resembling Owen Jones.
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