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 palace_in_frogland  In a broken dream 28 Oct 19 10.02pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Did anyone else watch Channel 4 Dispatches this evening? It covered the way that the American pharmaceutical industry is pressuring the Trump administration over ensuring the NHS pay "full market " prices as part of any trade deal, how there are already secret negotiations underway, how these are being disguised and how the impact will be buried by the use of double speak terminology. Trump doesn't need convincing and we would start from a position of considerable weakness. This was eye opening stuff and ought to be seen and considered by everyone, whatever their position on Brexit. It could cost the NHS around £27 billion more for it's drugs every year. That's a third of it's annual budget! What channel was that on? Oh, channel 4 you say? Right ho.
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 Hrolf The Ganger  28 Oct 19 10.13pm |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Look, it may be a narrative, but it's the truth. As is the fact that all the other parties are trying to disrupt. Let's not do the thing you always rail against. The question is of no importance. I think 99% of people have figured it out despite the media's efforts and the laughable position of the opposition.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 28 Oct 19 10.13pm |
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Originally posted by palace_in_frogland
What channel was that on? Oh, channel 4 you say? Right ho. So shooting the messenger will solve this? Right ho!
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| .TUX. 28 Oct 19 10.16pm |
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The never-ending saga continues. 11 years (and counting) of deliberate manipulation to rob the populous both financially and morally. Stop typing and start realising.
Buy Litecoin. |
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| dannyboy1978 28 Oct 19 10.16pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It could. All they need is a form of Brexit they can approve. And then for that to be verified by the people. Do that and there is a path to be followed. Verified by the people? You remoaners have always said referendums arnt legally binding and parliament makes the decisions. You word it like you know everything when in fact your making it up as you go! Give us all a laugh, what's your figure for mass immigration per year. You conveniently ignored my question earlier.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 28 Oct 19 11.19pm |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
Verified by the people? You remoaners have always said referendums arnt legally binding and parliament makes the decisions. You word it like you know everything when in fact your making it up as you go! Give us all a laugh, what's your figure for mass immigration per year. You conveniently ignored my question earlier. It isn't, and never has been, my preference to hold another referendum. My comment was only in response to the suggestion about "approval" being withheld and how it might be given. You cannot approve of something you disapprove of but as I want Parliament to make that decision they are on the right track.. I didn't ignore your question! I told you I hadn't thought about it because it's such a silly concept that we ought not to use such an emotional term for such a serious matter. Mass implies an overwhelmingly large amount of anything. Mass immigration would suggest the movement of a whole population from one country to another and not fluctuating trends of net migration.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 28 Oct 19 11.55pm |
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I would not repeat on HOL the language I used tonight in respect of our zombie Parliament and the opposition parties playing party politics and treating the electorate with sheer contempt.They are treating us as though we are total and utter buffoons. I was hyperventilating, 'spitting ' out acid disgust and boiling with enmity as hot as a deep-fat fryer.Tonsils leaving their moorings with the coarsening of public discourse order of the day.They were statues and I was a pigeon. There are those who have a different viewpoint of course and they are entitled to their opinion but whilst I respect their opinions I am not minded to offer any kind of response.I have a political life outside of HOL, accordingly my energies on this site will concentrate on the non-political threads.Indeed some of the hogwash is really not deserving of the oxygen of publicity.
Edited by Willo (29 Oct 2019 12.13am)
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cryrst  The garden of England 29 Oct 19 6.08am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It isn't stupid at all. It's the truth. The stupidity was Johnson making definitive statements knowing it was impossible to keep what was being promised. He won't be allowed to forget that in the forthcoming campaign. The voting public wont forget why he didnt deliver when he said he would.
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| Midlands Eagle 29 Oct 19 6.29am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Brexit blockers? Surely you mean no deal and bad deal blockers? The government were given every chance to stop promising what they could not deliver but persisted anyway. They have been taught a severe lesson that Parliament is ultimately senior to the voting public. EFA
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| the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 29 Oct 19 6.38am |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Listen, Boris has just admitted it himself. The cause is irrelevant if you’re contesting it as fact. He’s broken his promise, and the man himself has said so. Don’t be a chump only 1 chump here pal......you (well maybe include Wisbech in that)
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| dannyboy1978 29 Oct 19 6.51am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It isn't, and never has been, my preference to hold another referendum. My comment was only in response to the suggestion about "approval" being withheld and how it might be given. You cannot approve of something you disapprove of but as I want Parliament to make that decision they are on the right track.. I didn't ignore your question! I told you I hadn't thought about it because it's such a silly concept that we ought not to use such an emotional term for such a serious matter. Mass implies an overwhelmingly large amount of anything. Mass immigration would suggest the movement of a whole population from one country to another and not fluctuating trends of net migration. Overwhelming is what we have, we bring entire cities worth of people to the UK each year. NO ONE EVER VOTED FOR MASS IMIGRATION the closest it's been asked is the Tory manefesto "tens of thousands" and they won the election and brexit winning the vote. British people dont want more people. Edited by dannyboy1978 (29 Oct 2019 6.53am)
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| dannyboy1978 29 Oct 19 6.59am |
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Borris apparently lieing makes no difference., most people like my self believed he had to be forceful and believe in his convictions as he was going into negotiation with the EU. All that will happen is a few will go to the brexit party they certainly won't go to labour or non-dems.
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